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Jedi Guy

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15. I tend to view it as a question of values and how seriously we take them.
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 02:06 PM
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Platner has been accused of behavior (borderline violence towards women) that, quite frankly, would earn visceral condemnation were he not running for the Senate.

I've had someone try to brush that off as "relationships can get physical without it descending to abuse", which struck me as a very obvious cope. Leaving marks on someone with your hands, pushing them into a room and keeping them there against their will... those are abusive behaviors and trying to argue otherwise is wildly disingenuous. The former is battery, the latter could be false imprisonment or hell, even kidnapping.

So as I see it the question is, do our values about how women (and people in general) should be treated hold firm and apply in all cases or do we set those values aside in service of a political agenda, namely control of the Senate? If we excuse or ignore or minimize these behaviors in Platner in the name of political expedience I feel like that undermines our claim to take these values seriously.

The next time a Republican candidate is accused of putting hands on people the criticism of that behavior by those who defended Platner are going to ring just a wee bit hollow from where I'm standing.

That's just how I view this and my opinion is worth absolutely nothing since I don't vote in Maine. I just find it disheartening that so many people are shrugging off these very, very problematic behaviors without a backward glance when they'd be roundly condemning him if he were some random schmoe and not a Senate candidate.

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A simple poll [View all] sarisataka Friday OP
When one side has thrown the rule book in the garbage, then all bets are off. -nt CrispyQ Friday #1
This orangecrush Friday #26
Yup. I'm not a big fan of unilateral disarmament. 11 Bravo Friday #27
Would you kill Hitler? Nothing is absolute. Scrivener7 Friday #2
It is a philosophical question so there is no "right" answer sarisataka Friday #6
If you're a time traveler, you don't have to kill Hitler at all Uncle Joe Yesterday #32
Morality is relative to the context and circumstances Fiendish Thingy Friday #3
That is a comparison often brought up sarisataka Friday #8
That's why your poll is flawed logically Fiendish Thingy Friday #10
It is not a poll of logic sarisataka Friday #12
Logic is one essential element of philosophy Fiendish Thingy Friday #13
I tend to view it as a question of values and how seriously we take them. Jedi Guy Friday #15
It's also ironic that the accusations against Platner Fiendish Thingy Friday #17
I don't think she's the only one who's reported borderline violent behavior during past relationships, though. Jedi Guy Friday #18
Her account is the only one I've read alleging violence Fiendish Thingy Friday #21
Logic is a component sarisataka Friday #16
Explaining my "Pass" response Bettie Friday #4
Exactly why I didn't vote obamanut2012 Friday #5
Correct! I can understand why many people prefer a binary choice of this-or-that, black-or-white, up-or-down, etc. QueerDuck Friday #19
You could simply ask sarisataka Friday #24
Yes, I remember it well. It was a position that was secretly supported but publicly excused by many... QueerDuck Friday #25
That "baby Hitler" line made me think of an episode of Family Guy Polybius Friday #31
Need an "it depends" option. Happy Hoosier Friday #7
Not always an either or issue, so I passed jimmy the one Friday #9
That would make it too easy sarisataka Friday #11
What people say vs what they would do Sympthsical Friday #14
I support Rawlsian Liberalism. mr715 Friday #20
That begs the question sarisataka Friday #22
When I took political theory, the floor was the number 20. mr715 Friday #23
Appreciation for all who answered and the discussion sarisataka Friday #28
That was an adept rhetorical flourish, sarisataka mr715 Friday #29
Sometimes the choice is one of bad or worse. GoodRaisin Friday #30
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