Why?????????? Damn!!!!

[BainsBane]

234. No one drove you from the site

You chose to leave because of your opposition to our nominee and the democratic system that allowed 15 million citizens to vote for her. The only way pnwmom drove you from the site is in failing to relinquish her vote to you.

Democrats are comprised of people who vote Democrat. The base is comprised of blocks of voters who vote for Democrats in the largest percentages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factions_in_the_Democratic_Party_(United_States)#Voter_base.

Having a better sense of who represents the party’s base is important for strategist and for the party once it is in office. In 2008, for example, the only groups who voted for Obama by a margin of 2-1 or better, a good measure of a true demographic base, were African Americans (95%), Latinos (67%), voters under 29 years old (66%), Jews (78%), gays and lesbians (70%). Interestingly, union members only voted 60% for Obama, meaning that among white union members it was probably closer to 50%.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lincoln-mitchell/what-is-the-democratic-pa_b_741708.html

I don't appear on that list ( though I do appear on some that account for education and marital status). I can't imagine why I should care. I still vote Democrat. I still volunteer for Democrats. I still participate in local party organizations. But then, I'm not someone who believes that I must sit at the center of all things. It has never occurred to me to be aggrieved because I am not held above the rest of the electorate.

Just because someone is not part of a demographic that most heavily votes Democratic does not mean their vote is worth less than anyone else's. But if that person does not vote for Democrats, they cannot be considered a Democrat. Stein is not a Democrat. Donald Trump is not a Democrat. Writing in someone for president, whether they are a Democrat or an independent, is not voting Democrat. That means voting for the nominee in any given race, even if that nominee is not one's personal choice--which for most of is a majority of the time. We deal with it and vote for our second, third, forth, sixth, or twelfth choice because we care about issues, policies, and core values the party represents. We operate from a sense of what is best for our community, our fellow citizens. It's not about reflexively voting D because we don't think. It's about understanding that policy and issues, and most importantly the citizenry-- matter more than any one politician or anger than the majority of the primary electorate didn't vote as we wanted.


Now, this is your goodbye message, the original one before you edited it well over a year after you posted it.

I was going to wait till the 15th, but it is clear that the wolves are howling at the door and the DU I knew will be pretty much toast after tomorrow, regardless of the results in CA. Better to just start settling into a new home now (that would be JPR of course).

Official "Goodbye DU" Post

1. We won't let the door hit us on the way out -- thanks for your concern.

2. We won't be returning while Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton is the presumptive or actual Democratic nominee -- and perhaps not even after her inevitable fall. That should comfort many of you, which I guess just goes to show you were never really our friends.

3. We won't be voting for Trump, but have fun with that talking point.

4. We may not be voting for Hillary -- deal with it. If that means we were "never Democrats anyway", so be it (just ignore all our previous votes for Obama, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, et al.)

4. Oh, and Bernie Sanders and Ralph Nader are in fact two completely different people.

5. We're not magically going to disappear, nor are the many others who showed up to Sanders' rallies, phone banked for him, put up bumper stickers and/or lawn signs, or just honked at people standing on the corner with a Bernie sign. We will grow more numerous and more powerful, and we will eventually win. (And we will do so without throwing chairs.) You are on the wrong side of history.

6. Many, many of us are African American, women, Latino, elderly, LGBT, you name it. And some of us are young white males, not that there's anything wrong with it. Oh, and some of us are young independent millennial women with our own minds who don't choose a candidate based on who young men our age are supporting. Lol.

7. We leave sadly, not gleefully or spitefully. We sincerely wish more of you had not become so blind, deluded, jaded, fearful, peer-pressured, militant, or whatever it was that could cause you to support such a flawed individual or candidate for the Democratic Party nominee for President. For you, not for us.

8. Mostly, we leave because there's no use even talking to you anymore. We know you feel the same way about us. Call it irreconcilable differences.

(If I missed anything, please add it below.)

Well...

Bye!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&address=1280208311&info=1#edits

In the June 6, 2016 post, you said you would relish Hillary's defeat to Trump. You got your wish. Yet here you are, furious because pnwmom made a comment that failed to place you at the center of the party, a year after you declared you would relish its defeat to fascism.

You are of course within your rights to remain focused on Bernie and only Bernie. The rest of us will focus on what Republicans, fascists, and their allies did in delivering the country to fascism. We will focus on the lives ripped apart by immigration raids, on the roll back of environmental regulation, withdrawal from the Paris Climate Change Agreement. We will focus on Trump and his allies' efforts to strip as many as 32 million people of basic healthcare and the tens of thousands of deaths that result. We will focus on the rise of hate crimes by white nationalists angry that people of color live and vote in this country, that they hold jobs and contribute to society. We will focus on continuing and ever increasing voter disenfranchisement directed at people of color, the elderly and the unproperited, both through the Kobash commission and those who seek to keep the poor and people of color from participating in the Democratic selection of a nominee by replacing primaries with caucuses, the system with the lowest voter turn out of all. We will focus on the attacks on freedom of speech, on science and knowledge, on the press. You remain focused on Bernie. We all have our priorities.

Oh, and a word of advice: Next time you send around private messages at JPR urging a never Hillary mass return to DU, try to leave out the caver moles. I suppose they can be hard to distinguish, given that JPR posts mirror nearly perfectly the alt right.