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In reply to the discussion: We are making some changes to the moderating/jury system. (THIS IS IMPORTANT.) [View all]Kingofalldems
(39,950 posts)355. What is considered abusive language in jury comments?
        
								
                                        
                                        
							
								 
								
									
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                        We are making some changes to the moderating/jury system. (THIS IS IMPORTANT.) [View all]
							Skinner
							Sep 2013
							OP
                        
        
        If you're "singled out" by five randomly-selected juries the problem's probably in the mirror. (nt)
        Posteritatis
        Sep 2013
        #186
      
        
        If that many juries agree? Then of course it's the "victim's" fault. (nt)
        Posteritatis
        Sep 2013
        #203
      
        
        I believe most jury decisions are honest and fair. But I have been on the receiving end
        rhett o rick
        Sep 2013
        #252
      
        
        I don't have any problem with "leaving" a post when I feel the alert is bogus.
        winter is coming
        Sep 2013
        #205
      
        
        Yes, but if enough alerts are made on a person, it only takes 5 bogus to shut them up.
        rhett o rick
        Sep 2013
        #218
      
        
        Good. I am not the best with getting my point across. I may fight with others
        rhett o rick
        Sep 2013
        #246
      
        
        If singled out by say "a special group" and alerted on as a matter of being targeted
        Dragonfli
        Sep 2013
        #261
      
        
        I have seen the "Group" single out posters and attack.  Many have not reacted
        rhett o rick
        Sep 2013
        #276
      
        
        This has been the case with me. That's why I had left. But these new rules convinced me
        BlueCaliDem
        Oct 2013
        #395
      
        
        He is saying that you only get hidden if you are guilty.  Those that get hidden deserve it.
        rhett o rick
        Oct 2013
        #399
      
        
        I got one (my first ever) and it shocked me. I've been walking (posting) on coals since.
        tofuandbeer
        Sep 2013
        #278
      
        
        I just went and looked at my transparency page, because, well, hit the right nerve
        tavalon
        Sep 2013
        #326
      
        
        Me too. I don't think this is what is meant (at least I hope not. I like serving on the juries!)
        anneboleyn
        Sep 2013
        #117
      
        
        That, coupled with every alert going to admin should head off bad-faith alerters.  nt
        msanthrope
        Sep 2013
        #38
      
        
        There is always appeal to the admins. I think if someone gets their posting privls suspended and
        stevenleser
        Sep 2013
        #52
      
        
        The admins would see a pattern, I think.  They might be able to get away with it once. nt
        MADem
        Sep 2013
        #254
      
        
        Occasionally you get bad jury decisions. If enough alerts are thrown against the DU wall
        rhett o rick
        Sep 2013
        #247
      
        
        True. I wish personal attacks were hidden more often. It's a real simple idea. Don't attack DUers...
        stevenleser
        Sep 2013
        #101
      
        
        I agree. Alerters should pay a price for malicious alerts or alerts for non-aler table issues.
        bluestate10
        Sep 2013
        #176
      
        
        I love OTTO! I hope this means he is not leaving us because he is needed for you know who.
        hrmjustin
        Sep 2013
        #45
      
        
        I don't think there's anything in the OP that changes Otto's relationship with MIRT
        Lasher
        Sep 2013
        #180
      
        
        The only thing that changes is we have to manually ban people who just sign up and get a hidden
        hrmjustin
        Sep 2013
        #181
      
        
        Yes. I have definitely noticed this while serving on juries. Some use it to "shame"
        anneboleyn
        Sep 2013
        #124
      
        
        Spam alerts are the quickest ones to jury, IMO.  I don't mind getting those.
        winter is coming
        Sep 2013
        #214
      
        
        Much needed changes...especially addressing the small group that "hidden posts" does not influence..
        hlthe2b
        Sep 2013
        #28
      
        
        Of course this will not stop anyone who votes to hide on the basis of them not liking someone.
        L0oniX
        Sep 2013
        #32
      
        
        Yes and boorish behavior reflects on the individuals lack of respect for others.
        bluesbassman
        Sep 2013
        #50
      
        
        No, it reflects a realization that some people are the posting equivalent of Ted Bundy
        stevenleser
        Sep 2013
        #62
      
        
        Saying they do well means they run the site well. Any comparisons to Beck are despicable.
        Hekate
        Sep 2013
        #358
      
        
        Of course the owner has an agenda.  It's written up succinctly in the Mission Statement.  So what?
        cbayer
        Sep 2013
        #208
      
        
        Considering a lot of jury comments would get nuked in the forums, I agree. (nt)
        Posteritatis
        Sep 2013
        #188
      
        
        If you are keeping people from posting after 5 x's you should also monitor for excessive alerts.
        dkf
        Sep 2013
        #74
      
        
        Bans should be for 6/6 jury results. The haters are shotgunning their alerts and hoping for a jury
        Kolesar
        Sep 2013
        #83
      
        
        Yes, that may also make some people think when their hostility is exposed in comments.
        freshwest
        Sep 2013
        #184
      
        
        Best thing you'v done since nuking META!  Thanks for making this a better place
        Rowdyboy
        Sep 2013
        #76
      
        
        And so the jurists on DU are just like people picked off the street for live jury duty
        tavalon
        Sep 2013
        #340
      
        
        I'm wondering if not enough material is going to be sent to MIRT, but over-all, I like these changes
        Ian David
        Sep 2013
        #86
      
        
        Oh well. What the heck? I applaud this move even though it means I'll have to tone it down.
        Pretzel_Warrior
        Sep 2013
        #87
      
        
        "But if you don't violate the rules View profile then the jury is going to support you?"
        Pab Sungenis
        Sep 2013
        #129
      
        
        Good idea, either that or there should be some new penalty for frivolous alerts
        quinnox
        Sep 2013
        #136
      
        
        You should double the number of entries on the jury blacklist as well.
        cherokeeprogressive
        Sep 2013
        #122
      
        
        I like it. Sounds like the small percentage of duers who would brag about their hidden posts
        quinnox
        Sep 2013
        #128
      
        
        If 100 Tories or 100 Larouchies showed up to *disrupt* the Democratic forum with half-truths
        Kolesar
        Sep 2013
        #172
      
        
        No matter how 'popular' you might be or how 'popular' you see yourself
        Grateful for Hope
        Sep 2013
        #178
      
        
        "The administrators are getting increasingly concerned about the small number of members...
        RevStPatrick
        Sep 2013
        #142
      
        
        It's the low-count posters who post unnecessary rude comments that draw attention.
        pacalo
        Sep 2013
        #216
      
        
        "STARTING 90 DAYS FROM TODAY, if you have five hidden posts on your account you will be unable..."
        Taverner
        Sep 2013
        #146
      
        
        Try clever, biting sarcasm, as opposed to a lot of profanity and troll accusations.
        Nye Bevan
        Sep 2013
        #173
      
        
        Well Juror #4's response is now going to be the automatic response of the system. n/t
        whopis01
        Sep 2013
        #194
      
        
        K&R! And apparently three other members recced this at the exact same time I did.
        Rhiannon12866
        Sep 2013
        #160
      
        
        No TOS check box? The Neidermeyer / Marmalard faction of DU won't like that at all.
        Amerigo Vespucci
        Sep 2013
        #206
      
        
        I've served on several juries where the post was reported due to disagreeing with it
        Trekologer
        Sep 2013
        #220
      
        
        I suggest that if 5 hides causes you to lose posting privileges, you still should be
        rhett o rick
        Sep 2013
        #250
      
        
        I generally think these rules are very reasonable, I do caution on one thing however
        Bjorn Against
        Sep 2013
        #272
      
        
        You can alert on jury results. Look at the bottom of the reslts and you will see the alert button.
        hrmjustin
        Sep 2013
        #277
      
        
        Well I am on Mirt and a host of several rooms and I can tell you things have gone downhill very
        hrmjustin
        Sep 2013
        #283
      
        
        Mirt was alerted the same time the rest of DU was about this  What I am saying is if you see
        hrmjustin
        Sep 2013
        #285
      
        
        You can start an anything goes discussion forum really easily. And I will bet it will be a hit
        stevenleser
        Sep 2013
        #332
      
        
        Sometimes stepping away from the computer and denying those people what they want
        tavalon
        Sep 2013
        #325
      
        
        Good on you -- this should help. Can we look forward to a few more as Primary season approaches?
        Hekate
        Sep 2013
        #290
      
        
        While I applaud any efforts to improve this website, there are other issues that should be addressed
        Sheldon Cooper
        Sep 2013
        #308
      
        
        Bullying by jurors ideologically aligned with bullies who attack without consequences
        carolinayellowdog
        Sep 2013
        #312
      
        
        I am amazed that DU is still online with all the attacks it's had over the years
        nolabels
        Sep 2013
        #388