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Oberon Vale

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25. Trump Blames Ukraine for a War Russia Started--Because He's a Clueless Moron Who Needs to Shut the Hell Up
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 12:03 AM
Feb 2025

Donald Trump, the man who thinks he alone can solve every problem with some half-baked "deal," has now come out blaming Ukraine for a war that Russia started. Yeah, you heard that right. The guy who spent his presidency kissing Putin’s ass now wants to lecture Zelensky on how he should have "never started" the war—like Ukraine just asked to be invaded by a genocidal dictatorship.

Russia launched this war in 2022, not Ukraine. Putin massed troops on the border, rolled tanks in, and started slaughtering civilians because he couldn’t stand the idea of Ukraine having its own sovereignty, its own democracy, and its own fucking right to exist. And now Trump, sitting in his Mar-a-Lago fantasyland, thinks the solution was for Ukraine to just give up and let Russia take whatever it wanted.

Trump claims he could’ve "made a deal" where Ukraine got to keep "almost all of their land"—as if Russia has any right to be in Ukraine in the first place. And as if giving up any land is some minor inconvenience rather than an outright betrayal of democracy and national sovereignty. It’s not a fucking real estate negotiation, it’s a war for survival.

Then there’s the kicker—Trump whining that Zelensky let the war go on for "three years." Yeah, no shit, because Ukraine is fighting for its survival. Because unlike Trump, who bends over for dictators, Ukraine actually believes in something worth defending.

Trump’s whole take is as dumb as it is dangerous. He’s not talking about peace—he’s talking about surrender. And let’s be clear: Russia deserves no concessions. Not a single inch of land, not a single compromise, nothing.

Ukraine shouldn’t "make a deal" with Russia that costs them even a square inch of their country. No compromises, no surrender, no bullshit. This isn’t about playing nice with some two-bit dictator. This is about democracy versus tyranny, and there’s no middle ground there.

Russia doesn’t get rewarded for invading. It doesn’t get land, it doesn’t get influence, it doesn’t get shit. It gets out—or it gets crushed. That’s the only deal worth considering.

And Trump, sitting on the sidelines, playing wannabe peacemaker by throwing Ukraine under the bus, can fuck right off. Zelensky and the Ukrainian people are in this fight because they understand something Trump never will—freedom isn’t given, it’s fought for. And if that means fighting to the last breath to keep Ukraine whole, then that’s exactly what they should do.

So here’s the real message: Fuck Russia. Fuck Putin. And fuck Trump’s spineless, dictator-loving bullshit. Ukraine doesn’t need a deal. It needs to win.

I am seriously running out of bad words to call this jackwad. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #1
I can help with adjectives vapor2 Feb 2025 #17
The lies. C_U_L8R Feb 2025 #2
Trump has said some crazy things, but this has to be the craziest. everyonematters Feb 2025 #3
There is nothing but lies from these sh*theels. NotHardly Feb 2025 #4
After a 4 hour meeting with Russian officials, what did we expect him to say? Native Feb 2025 #47
Typical gop tactic. Now they'll keep repeating it. C Moon Feb 2025 #5
What the fuck is he doing at Mar a Lardo in the middle of the week? hedda_foil Feb 2025 #6
Cheating at golf. MLWR Feb 2025 #11
While his flunky cheats at online games RazorbackExpat Feb 2025 #39
I should have thought of that! hedda_foil Feb 2025 #49
COUNTERING THE PROPAGANDA: SupportSanity Feb 2025 #7
Agreed. Having the source important. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 2025 #16
Pootie's dummy says what? FakeNoose Feb 2025 #8
1984 meets Falconcrest Kid Berwyn Feb 2025 #9
Proving once again that his former SoS Rex Tillerson was 100% correct MLWR Feb 2025 #10
Hey dumbass, Russia invaded Ukraine, twice tornado34jh Feb 2025 #12
Excuse my language, but Putin's Bitch said what? Dan Feb 2025 #13
Alt headline: "Trump spews his 800,000th lie" chowder66 Feb 2025 #14
The logic of an adjudicated rapist Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2025 #15
He lost touch with reality and he is riding on fantasy and doesn't know the difference. twodogsbarking Feb 2025 #18
Trump is an abominable Hefty bag of liquid rhino shit. LudwigPastorius Feb 2025 #19
don't disparage rhinos. pig sgit worse. pansypoo53219 Feb 2025 #22
Propaganda 101. littlemissmartypants Feb 2025 #20
... of the gaslighting variety, i.e. intended to make us think we might be going crazy William Seger Feb 2025 #52
Gaslighting is one technique used in IPV (Intimate Partner Violence)... littlemissmartypants Feb 2025 #53
I made a mistake but corrected it. Here's the comparison chart. littlemissmartypants Feb 2025 #60
Yep, it's the typical DARVO gaslighting radius777 Feb 2025 #57
Exactly! Thanks, radius777. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Feb 2025 #59
It is time Mrsfiddlegirl Feb 2025 #21
He doesn't have the power to end it, DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #23
Boy, that Zelensky is such a card. Did he go up to Buddyzbuddy Feb 2025 #24
Trump Blames Ukraine for a War Russia Started--Because He's a Clueless Moron Who Needs to Shut the Hell Up Oberon Vale Feb 2025 #25
Welcome to DU! radical noodle Feb 2025 #27
Thanks Oberon Vale Feb 2025 #43
Woah! That's some first post! Emrys Feb 2025 #29
Thank you. Looking forward to it. Oberon Vale Feb 2025 #44
Welcome to DU fellow vet, write a DU poem maybe? KS Toronado Feb 2025 #38
Thanks. Oberon Vale Feb 2025 #45
Welcome! Evolve Dammit Feb 2025 #41
Thank you. Oberon Vale Feb 2025 #46
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #54
Agree. Ukraine should've been in NATO a long time ago. radius777 Feb 2025 #56
There it is - The Big Lie How will History record it? OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2025 #26
And the Jews of Germany and Poland should have never marched to the Concentration Camps.. question everything Feb 2025 #28
History is up for a full re-write with these assholes assuming their fascist roles. Evolve Dammit Feb 2025 #42
I read something where they said Dan Feb 2025 #30
There are three countries who are blue-wave Feb 2025 #31
I thought this was Borowitz. SergeStorms Feb 2025 #32
"Just look what Zelenskyy made Putin do!" William Seger Feb 2025 #48
Lying about who attacked whom is nothing new. Lionel Mandrake Feb 2025 #33
Yeah, they did! They said that.... Jack Valentino Feb 2025 #35
Gleiwitz JoseBalow Feb 2025 #37
UHHHHHH---- oh christ on the mountain, here we go with the Jack Valentino Feb 2025 #34
SHAME mahina Feb 2025 #36
Will NATO come to the defense of a NATO country that is Mike 03 Feb 2025 #40
What a stupid fuck nt sarisataka Feb 2025 #50
When did Ukraine invade Russia and start bombing its cities? Ocelot II Feb 2025 #51
Another Sewage-Filled LIE from drumphf. SLAVA UKRAINI! 💛💚 electric_blue68 Feb 2025 #55
And Poland should NEVER have started a war with Nazi Germany... (SARCASM) /nt artemisia1 Feb 2025 #58
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