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Bernardo de La Paz

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13. Great Depression caused by over-production, not tariffs. Tariff taxes made it worse & longer
Mon Mar 31, 2025, 09:41 AM
Mar 2025

This is different. I think tRump tariff taxes will be the main cause of a coming recession or worse. Mass firings in the government sector up and down the line will make it worse. ICE-y disruptions in the labour market will make it worse. Reduced government spending will make it worse.

Swapping out income taxes and putting in tariff taxes is regressive since upper income classes spend money on untariffed things like vacations and real estate and artwork and plastic surgery. Poor people have to shop at Walmart, etc and spend more of their income on tariffed goods.

Poor and middle class people are the engine of the economy, which after all is all about money in motion. When poor people get money they put it into motion immediately to pay debts and rent and buy to replace something they've been wanting to replace for a year.

When tariff taxes are raised on imports, they cause price rises on domestic product too, because of the profit motive. Used cars are going to have a jump in prices.

Tariff taxes mean that the dollars in the economy buy fewer units. Fewer units sold means fewer sales people, few warehouse people, fewer truckers. These all have ripple effects.

Tariff tax revenue will not meet tRumpian expectations. tRump will balloon the deficit because compliant RepubliCONners will pass a big income tax cut budget (disproportionately for the rich). And then there will need to be increased government payments (like unemployment and stimulus cheques signed with great fanfare by tRump) so that tRump won't lose half his base. That will also balloon the deficit.

tRump also wants to devalue the dollar to try to decrease the money the US owes internationally. That will put further downward pressure on the stock market as investors flee to Europe and Canada, despite their tariff tax burdens imposed by tRump.

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"And for my next act, I will shoot myself in both feet" C_U_L8R Mar 2025 #1
And all of the assholes who voted for him JustAnotherGen Mar 2025 #16
We'll see how the cheer when Trump drives the economy into recession. TomSlick Mar 2025 #37
This ain't 1965 Bluetus Mar 2025 #18
That's because BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #22
Preaching to the choir a bit here, but Bluetus Mar 2025 #33
I have been bingeing on Monty Python skits and movies. This maladministration travelingthrulife Apr 2025 #41
Mass immigration, tariffs, cost of living to high, etc..................... Lovie777 Mar 2025 #2
Great Depression caused by over-production, not tariffs. Tariff taxes made it worse & longer Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #13
"Great Depression caused by over-production, not tariffs." BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #23
We had to destroy the village ... Tarzanrock Mar 2025 #3
Putin's Tariffs! sunflowerseed Mar 2025 #4
Oh Prairie Gates Mar 2025 #5
This jackass loves to tax Americans. gordianot Mar 2025 #6
You big time Corporate asshats wanted this baffoon,you got him. Bengus81 Mar 2025 #7
I hope his targets hit back hard enough to hurt the corporate asshats. Magoo48 Mar 2025 #20
Tuvalu deserves it Renew Deal Mar 2025 #8
Next after Greenland? wolfie001 Mar 2025 #11
He's gonna back off when the markets tank. Just like before wolfie001 Mar 2025 #9
IOW BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #10
"In other words" wolfie001 Mar 2025 #12
LOL BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #15
Probably. The idiot has no idea of what he's doing. brush Mar 2025 #29
Yep! A party of spineless weasels nt wolfie001 Mar 2025 #35
Wonderful..I'm looking forward to this. chouchou Mar 2025 #14
We Americans should REFUSE TO BUY stuff FakeNoose Mar 2025 #17
Yes, those of us able should begin self imposed austarity immediately. Magoo48 Mar 2025 #21
Bueller.... Jughead Mar 2025 #19
I shot the Tariffs! But I did not kill the Deficit! Xipe Totec Mar 2025 #24
I'll give ya a DUzy! BumRushDaShow Mar 2025 #25
So... manufactured global economic crisis? sakabatou Mar 2025 #26
The world put tariffs on russia because of Ukraine Nigrum Cattus Mar 2025 #27
Orange shithead's murder/suicide Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2025 #28
He is completely out of his fuckin mind. Initech Mar 2025 #30
I'm pretty much expecting him to call it off at the last minute . . . so his billionaire buddies can Vinca Mar 2025 #31
So now ALL of the oil we buy from the middle east will be tariffed too, increasing our gas prices / petroleum prices SWBTATTReg Mar 2025 #32
He won't stop until he's 'proved' that he was right. Just like that wildfire 'faucet' travelingthrulife Apr 2025 #42
And will only end for the countries that kiss his fat ass... ananda Mar 2025 #34
Complete, batshit insanity.... LudwigPastorius Mar 2025 #36
He loves having the whole world at his feet, breathinglessly awaiting his words. NH Ethylene Mar 2025 #38
It's "reality show" television tactics - the "cliffhanger" BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #39
Get ready for the recession... WorkingClassMan Apr 2025 #40
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #43
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