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69. It's post like this that make me feel too many Democrats don't realize...

Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:38 PM

Jun 4

...the party is at a serious inflection point, and they can't, or don't want to, understand what's going on.

Sanders and Jean-Pierre are examples of the feelings of betrayal that a lot of politically active black women are dealing with when it comes to the party. The party continues to harp on the need to embrace the "bro" culture, or chasing down voters who stopped being interested in voting for Democrats three cycles ago, while continuing to ignore its most reliable supporters.

Until either of these women sit down for brunch with Putin, I'm going to resist lumping them in with Jill Stein or trying to delegitimize a decision that they have every right to make.

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Former Biden press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre leaves Democratic Party [View all] Mr. Sparkle Jun 4 OP

I don't like turncoats like her and Tapper Ritabert Jun 4 #1

Maybe she was a source mzmolly Jun 4 #13

Could be. Ritabert Jun 4 #21

Wouldn't surprise me. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 4 #65

The party was faithful to her Henry203 Jun 4 #2

Me either. Joe did a good job but after that debate, no way could he have withstood... brush Jun 4 #31

It's post like this that make me feel too many Democrats don't realize... appmanga Jun 4 #69

Abandoning the party IMO is not the answer. When Jen Psaki stepped down... brush Jun 4 #70

Maybe her point... appmanga Jun 4 #80

Hope it was worth it. Sure seems like it was all about the money. brush Jun 5 #84

If she Rebl2 Jun 4 #71

Another opportunist flogging their book. N/T tonekat Jun 4 #3

so true. riversedge Jun 4 #8

Who reads them? Falcon101 Jun 4 #19

Wish I thought she'd be the last to do that. Silent Type Jun 4 #4

Good grief NewHendoLib Jun 4 #5

Gotta cash in while the iron is hot I guess madville Jun 4 #6

I don't want to be picky but which party supports gay Black women? Ritabert Jun 4 #22

Which party does Karine Jean-Pierre belong to now? ShazzieB Jun 4 #47

What is the Independent party's platform? Ritabert Jun 4 #50

It's not a party, but I'm sure you know that. ShazzieB Jun 4 #68

I don't care what she does but I'm certainly not buying her book. Ritabert Jun 5 #86

As press secretary, she was weak sauce compared to Psaki. Intractable Jun 4 #7

Psaki was featured on the new every night. Once she left there was almost no wide coverage of those briefings anymore. Klarkashton Jun 4 #54

I always thought Rebl2 Jun 4 #74

Interesting opinion.... BlueBoiler Jun 4 #79

That was my take. Klarkashton Jun 4 #81

Lead, follow or get out of the way. Basso8vb Jun 4 #9

This hits hard Polybius Jun 4 #10

I'll reserve judgement until I know a little more. thought crime Jun 4 #17

I'm reserving judgment also. ShazzieB Jun 4 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Jun 4 #72

Book # 2,334,576 telling us about a broken two party system awesomerwb1 Jun 4 #11

Worn out topic Falcon101 Jun 4 #20

The 'boxes' differentiate policy. mzmolly Jun 4 #12

My opinion....Karine, as I am sure you know you have 3 strikes walkingman Jun 4 #14

Let her be jaymac Jun 4 #16

Just to be clear - I thought she did a good job for the Biden administration. walkingman Jun 4 #18

This is exactly correct k_buddy762 Jun 4 #27

Right. She sure won't get any work from the rethugs, nor us Dems now. brush Jun 4 #38

She's an independent now, not a Republican. ShazzieB Jun 4 #44

Well, there are only two parties....she left the Democratic Party walkingman Jun 4 #48

I have no idea ahy she left the Party. ShazzieB Jun 4 #51

Hey Judas/phony KJP, Miami Blue Jun 4 #15

Fine. Just vote in your own self-interest. nilram Jun 4 #23

I would guess and understand if she has bitterness toward official "Democrats" who attacked Biden then hlthe2b Jun 4 #24

Thanks, elleng Jun 4 #29

I think making her decision public ... Jkanad Jun 4 #34

Ding ding ding Ninga Jun 4 #55

Ding ding ding Ninga Jun 4 #56

It says everything!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 4 #67

Abandoing the party is not loyalty. When Jen Psaki quit she go promoted... brush Jun 4 #39

Yeah, how do people get she is a "turncoat" when it literally says the book is about the party betraying Biden? tulipsandroses Jun 4 #64

Count me in. ShazzieB Jun 4 #45

She's looking for another successful party--like the Greens! Vogon_Glory Jun 4 #25

Another book about Democratic molehills of the past .. Escape Jun 4 #26

How many Dems will buy her book? Not many, I'm guessing FakeNoose Jun 4 #28

Not impressed. Never was. NBachers Jun 4 #30

I'll withhold judgment JustAnotherGen Jun 4 #32

Opportunist..! slightlv Jun 4 #33

I think it says part of the reason right there in the excerpt... chowder66 Jun 4 #35

She's not wrong JustAnotherGen Jun 4 #42

"...maybe markodochartaigh Jun 4 #60

I have no idea. I'm just spitballing. chowder66 Jun 4 #66

Well, then. dchill Jun 4 #36

You can identify as a platypus, markodochartaigh Jun 4 #37

Methinks perhaps... GiqueCee Jun 4 #40

Disappointing. And as long as Citizens United and the Electoral College remain, spooky3 Jun 4 #41

Goodbye then. Dave Bowman Jun 4 #43

Politics sucks. Can suck you in too. She has seen a lot. Hard to judge. twodogsbarking Jun 4 #46

I'm willing to give her some time. badhair77 Jun 4 #52

News at 11: Dems in disarray.... IcyPeas Jun 4 #53

She stayed as long as she was cashing a paycheck, then left the party bottomofthehill Jun 4 #57

So true Rebl2 Jun 4 #73

Just another opportunist willing to stab Dems in the back to sell a book. SunSeeker Jun 4 #58

I don't see how it works- regardless of which side the reader is on FBaggins Jun 4 #75

Independent is fine in theory, but there's no option to the Democratic Party maxsolomon Jun 4 #59

Pretty big item for the book announcement... Mike Nelson Jun 4 #61

I became an independent once stillcool Jun 4 #62

Unfortunately we are stuck with a two-party system Jilly_in_VA Jun 4 #63

Wow. This is now the third thread I've read here in the past couple hours Wiz Imp Jun 4 #76

Here is a good interview explaining her decision LetMyPeopleVote Jun 4 #77

I understand this in a way... the_liberal_grandpa Jun 4 #78

I could deal with Bernie doing this, but it's a fucking dumb trend and I don't like it cadoman Jun 4 #82

This is about book sales, period. nt BootinUp Jun 4 #83

Never liked her - still don't Pachamama Jun 5 #85

So proud of her!!! RandiFan1290 Jun 5 #87

Karine Jean Pierre is leaving because they treated President Biden like shit LetMyPeopleVote Jun 7 #88