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In reply to the discussion: New York Times Responds After Zohran Mamdani Story Stirs Liberal Backlash [View all]BumRushDaShow
(157,639 posts)39. Oh I remember the Rachel Dolezal issue
But you also have those who have been here for many generations who have an ancestor (or ancestors) who could and chose to "pass for white", and disappear into society as that.
And done more recently -
The recent ancestry genetic testing orgs are finding some of these instances popping up in the progeny.
What I am saying is that this underscores a long-entrenched problem that no one wants to tackle and it is at play in every aspect of life in the United States - and that includes elections.
If Mamdani had been born in South Africa, he might have been considered a "coloured" (not "white" or "black" ).
You have many within the (black) African diaspora community here in the U.S. who don't want to use a "color" designation and generally accept "African American". They know their origin nationalities on the African continent, including ethnic groups that they descend from. But then you have those who DO want to use "color", as they have little or no records over generations, of their family's ancestral homelands/ethnic groups, and have consciously chosen to avoid the ancestral nationality debate.
Sweeping the nonsensical system under the rug doesn't help make sense of it and this is why there were attempts TO bring this all to light to "teach" and it was of course attacked.
Whether the selection was "intentional" or not is irrelevant. It IS a "truism", like Muskrat's, which is why you usually see a prepend of "white South African". But would you see that applied for those who are African-descended who were born and raised in England (and whose ancestors were there for generations), where they could be called a "black Brit" or "black European"?


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New York Times Responds After Zohran Mamdani Story Stirs Liberal Backlash [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Jul 5
OP
Lawsuits cost money & take time, & allow your enemy to keep smearing you in the meantime
Hekate
Jul 5
#23
As Reagan and others before him knew, 'race' and 'immigration' have always been constructs that racists can 'rewrite'
ancianita
Jul 5
#17
You need to understand the "history" of "race" and who is designated what in this country
BumRushDaShow
Jul 5
#20
I by no means know the complete history of not only American but world history of race.
rogue emissary
Jul 5
#27
Thank you for so much information. Do you think a high School senior knew this information?
rogue emissary
Jul 5
#30
The NYT's "scandal": Mamdani checked the "Black or African American" box on his Columbia application.
sop
Jul 5
#7
Tell that to The Times who just recently refused to use hacked info against trump and Vance
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 5
#43
No, Indians( south asians) are like 10 peecent at Columbia while making up 1 percent of
JI7
Jul 5
#14
"Our reporting helps readers better understand how candidates think and what they believe."
Bourgeois Liberal
Jul 5
#11
The problem is that the information came from hackers, which should have been dismissed or backed up with other sources
ificandream
Jul 5
#25