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13. Stillborn Decisions

Sat Aug 9, 2025, 09:03 AM

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Why is this not obvious to Trump?

I have been posting since January that conditions are not ripe on the ground for peace and the current stillborn decisons will only drag out the process and prolong the war. Trump's stillborn decisions are just that: stillborn. It is past time to keep recycling such dribble. Things must go in a different direction or we will still be talking about the Ukraine war 3 years from now.

Zelenskyy's words summarize it well. "Ukraine is ready for real decisions that can bring peace. Any decisions that are against us, any decisions that are without Ukraine, are at the same time decisions against peace. They will not achieve anything. These are stillborn decisions. They are unworkable decisions. And we all need real and genuine peace. Peace that people will respect."

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Zelenskyy rejects Trump's proposal that Ukraine could swap territories with Russia [View all] Emrys Saturday OP

Game Over no_hypocrisy Saturday #1

Who cares about the Nobel outside of his head? Moostache Yesterday #60

Swap territory. Stupid thing for TACO to consider. He swapped territory with Merv Griffin once ... marble falls Saturday #2

The Shart of the Deal. tanyev Saturday #3

"But it's really good shit." marble falls Saturday #9

Is that the same Taj Mahal . . . AverageOldGuy Saturday #6

... and then had it demolished? Yep. marble falls Saturday #10

Successful businessman JI7 Saturday #17

I remember Trump bragging about how he oasis Saturday #7

Back when Bill Clinton saved TACO and his bankers from going under by guaranteeing a billion dollars in new ... marble falls Saturday #12

Wow! 2016 "Frontline" segment tells it all. oasis Saturday #20

I'd forgotten all about that NJCher Saturday #15

Did I Miss Something? DallasNE Saturday #16

Exactly what I thought too. What part of Russia does he actually think they are going to "swap?" Ol Janx Spirit Saturday #34

47 and Putin are engaged in the mutual masturbation version of the "Art of the Deal." pat_k Saturday #50

Hand Tough Zelinski! Chasstev365 Saturday #4

Just sayin' . . . AverageOldGuy Saturday #5

Russia used to own Alaska, too, until it was purchased by the US. Think the orange monster wants to swap it back... Hekate Saturday #44

Why else do you think the meeting will be in Alaska? Diraven Saturday #58

Parts of almost every country in the world were formerly parts of other countries. Maps change constantly. eppur_se_muova Saturday #57

I suppose Russia could swap some territory in Siberia for the port city of Crimea ToxMarz Saturday #8

Maybe they should give Ukraine Moscow. That might be fair given the atrocities Russia has committed. travelingthrulife Saturday #22

Mr. trump makes PM Chamberlain look positively descive and insightful in comparisom Torchlight Saturday #11

Chamberlain had a much different and frankly vastly weaker hand to play dsc Saturday #33

Interesting take! cilla4progress Saturday #39

From my readings of the time, that's correct Emrys Saturday #55

Stillborn Decisions DallasNE Saturday #13

I have a counter-proposal DFW Saturday #14

I will trade you my shithole countries Hornedfrog2000 Saturday #18

There's Putin putting his foot in the door. It will end up being the same as Putin always wants ck4829 Saturday #19

Now we're talking business. ReRe Saturday #42

So Trump's brilliant new plan is the same old thing he has been saying. travelingthrulife Saturday #21

Worse than that - Emrys Saturday #23

Damn 3auld6phart Saturday #24

I think Trump enjoys destroying this country. He would do it for free. travelingthrulife Saturday #25

Trump will give himself a Knobel Prize anyway. C_U_L8R Saturday #26

AS IF Vlad the Invader would ever agree to give up one square centimeter of Russian land to Ukraine! ShazzieB Saturday #27

There's also the fact that in some of the disputed territory, Emrys Saturday #30

Thanks for the additional info. ShazzieB Saturday #32

The shark analogy is spot-on: "He has to keep moving or he'll drown" Hekate Saturday #45

K&R ReRe Saturday #43

What an absolutely craven suggestion by an absolutely craven little man. malthaussen Saturday #28

don't... myohmy2 Saturday #29

Just goes to show that Trump is Hey Joe Saturday #31

Maybe the meeting in Alaska is to discuss another land swap Bayard Saturday #35

Or Alaska? cilla4progress Saturday #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Bayard Saturday #36

Sounds like Donny brought his knee pads to the meeting. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Saturday #37

We must have cilla4progress Saturday #38

Zelenskyy's Answer To Trump DallasNE Saturday #41

It's like Zelensky doesn't even want Donny to get the Nobel Peace Prize! tanyev Saturday #46

Trump, you're not dealing with a 14 year old nimphet here. Xipe Totec Saturday #47

Well, 8 months later we see TSF's plan to end the war in 24 hours. bluestarone Saturday #48

A polite way of telling trump to go to hell with Putin his master. republianmushroom Saturday #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Jacson6 Saturday #51

I say bullshit to this. bluestarone Saturday #52

The Meeting Is In The US OhioTim Saturday #53

This is a little misleading... WarGamer Saturday #54

If you insist, and you're nothing if not tiresomely consistent Emrys Saturday #56

Since TACO mentioned 'Swapping' : Bread and Circuses Saturday #59

"Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier," jfz9580m Yesterday #61

Doh! It appears Trump was talking out of his arse anyway (BIGLY surprise): Emrys Yesterday #62