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AZJonnie

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6. The frequent characterization of "Trump's campaign promise to release the full extent Epstein Files"
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:03 AM
Sep 18

Is really an exaggeration. Such a promise was in no way a centerpiece of his campaign, or part of his platform.

In fact, he was always mealy-mouthed about his commitment to doing so. The most famous time was an interview on Faux where they asked if he'd "declassify" the Epstein files (along with those for JFK and MLK who were discussed immediately before), and he said "Yeah. Yeah, I would" but then immediately proceeded to walk it back.

Rachel Campos-Duffy (Fox News): “Would you declassify the Epstein files?”

Donald Trump: “Yeah, I would.”

(At this point, the original TV airing ended. The full answer, later broadcast and published, continued)

Donald Trump: “I guess I would. I think that less so because, you don’t know, you don’t want to affect people’s lives if it’s phony stuff in there, because it’s a lot of phony stuff with that whole world. But I think I would.”

Campos-Duffy: “Do you think it would help restore trust?”

Trump: “I don’t know about Epstein so much as I do the others. Certainly about the way he died. It’d be interesting to find out what happened there, because that was a weird situation and the cameras didn’t happen to be working, etc., etc. But yeah, I’d go a long way toward that one.”


So, his answer was qualified—he initially agreed, then immediately hedged about "phony stuff" and seemed ambivalent by the end of the exchange. Fox’s initial on-air version only included “Yeah, I would,” but later acknowledged and aired the fuller exchange

Here's literally THE other time, in September on a Lex Fridman podcast:
Lex Fridman: "The list of clients that went to the island has not been made public."

Donald Trump: "Yeah, it’s—It’s very interesting isn’t it? Probably will be, by the way, probably."

Lex Fridman: "So if you are able to, you’ll be—"

Donald Trump: "I’d certainly take a look at it. I’d have no problem with it."


That is what the media have turned into "Trump’s campaign promise to release the full extent Epstein Files".

If this sounds like I'm defending IQ47, I'm really not. Fact is, he's ALWAYS hedged when asked, and never brought it up on his own. This is NOT exculpatory, in fact, it's only *slightly* less guilty-seeming as "promising you will", then later saying you won't.

However, I'm always annoyed by lies. And framing it in this way ... is a lie. He didn't "promise" any "full release", and it was never framed by him like "Vote for Me and I'll Release The Files". Its more accurate to say that "Trump always declined to commit to releasing the full files when pressed whether he would".

Again, not at all an indicator of innocence, rather it's an indicator that he's actually been frightened to release them all along. It's not just as of this year. Nor is his fake news angle new

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I wouldn't believe a single thing out of moniss Sep 18 #1
a cynic from his tiniest toe to the top of his head. barbtries Sep 18 #24
Barr was tight with the Bush family and moniss Sep 18 #25
Half the Epstein Crime Syndicate Was Murdered MrWowWow Sep 18 #2
Seriously, who can believe anything Barr says. Baitball Blogger Sep 18 #3
When Trump asked how "that" happened . . . AverageOldGuy Sep 18 #4
Maybe the fixers didn't tell Trump about the murder. Irish_Dem Sep 18 #5
The frequent characterization of "Trump's campaign promise to release the full extent Epstein Files" AZJonnie Sep 18 #6
Chump is a master of weasel-words, and making weaselly promises that mean nothing FakeNoose Sep 18 #17
yeah, cool story bro Javaman Sep 18 #7
Bill Barr is a pathological liar. Ray Bruns Sep 18 #8
If Barr said the sun is in the sky I would look outside. twodogsbarking Sep 18 #9
Aaaah---Aaaah---Aaaaaaachoooobullshit Prairie Gates Sep 18 #10
Immediately followed by "I don't know anything about it."? tanyev Sep 18 #11
"Hey, Don, you know that thing about that guy we were taling about?...yeah, it's been taken care of." sop Sep 18 #12
Dump was baffled? 😮 Clouds Passing Sep 18 #13
Did Barr mention his dad hired Epstein to teach at an exclusive private college prep academy? Kid Berwyn Sep 18 #14
I don't think Epstein committed suicide. red dog 1 Sep 18 #15
They've made sure it will never be traced back to them FakeNoose Sep 18 #18
...he asked with a wink of his eye Scalded Nun Sep 18 #16
There is a manure spreader out in the field republianmushroom Sep 18 #19
Odd. He said the same thing about Kimmel, Colbert and Jan 6. Marcuse Sep 18 #20
"He had the same reaction I did, which was 'How the hell did that happen? He's in federal custody,'" LiberalLovinLug Sep 18 #21
Uh-huh. travelingthrulife Sep 18 #22
It was just a coincidence that he died during a three minute gap in alfredo Sep 18 #23
"How the hell'd that happen" C_U_L8R Sep 18 #26
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