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AloeVera

(3,919 posts)
4. Wrong again - as surely you know.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 10:43 AM
Oct 16

The 1,700 "prisoners" abducted from Gaza during the "war" not only did not get "due process of law" but were held without even any charges.

There were around 300 women and children among those released. There are still thousands of adult civilians in those torture camps, God help them.

The only "process" these innocent people were unfortunate enough to get was the systematic and systemic torture and abuse meted out to all Palestinian "prisoners" in the torture camps cynically named Israeli prisons.

The truth shall set you free so the saying goes, but not if you don't want to know the truth. Here goes, for others who might read it.

https://www.btselem.org/publications/202408_welcome_to_hell

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/07/israel-must-end-mass-incommunicado-detention-and-torture-of-palestinians-from-gaza/

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/07/israel-must-end-mass-incommunicado-detention-and-torture-of-palestinians-from-gaza/

Then there is this:

Israeli military database indicates only a quarter of Gaza detainees are fighters

Only one in four detainees from Gaza are identified as fighters by Israel’s military intelligence, classified data indicates, with civilians making up the vast majority of Palestinians held without charge or trial in abusive prisons.

Only one in four detainees from Gaza are identified as fighters by Israel’s military intelligence, classified data indicates, with civilians making up the vast majority of Palestinians held without charge or trial in abusive prisons.

Those jailed for long periods without charge or trial include medical workers, teachers, civil servants, media workers, writers, sick and disabled people and children.

Among the most egregious cases are those of an 82-year-old woman with Alzheimer’s jailed for six weeks and of a single mother separated from her young children. When the mother was released after 53 days she found the children begging on the streets.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/04/israeli-military-database-indicates-only-a-quarter-of-gaza-detainees-are-fighters

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Well, that didn't take long. mwmisses4289 Oct 15 #1
Seeing Hamas and the general Palestinian population can't find a lot of their own Aussie105 Oct 16 #2
If Hamas had no bodies of hostages to return, they signed a cease fire deal in bad faith. Glorious bastard Oct 16 #3
Wrong again - as surely you know. AloeVera Oct 16 #4
How many of them were ambushed and abducted to be held for ransom and no other reason? Glorious bastard Oct 16 #6
Many of the hostages held by Israel received no trial Orrex Oct 17 #12
I'm on the side that's not Hamas n/t Polybius Oct 18 #20
Should Israel resume their bombing over corpses? Resume starving the populace? maxsolomon Oct 16 #5
Should we overlook Hamas' deceptions yet again and deflect to speculating about Israel instead? Glorious bastard Oct 17 #7
the idea that hostage bodies are unrecoverable below bombed buildings isn't outrageous. maxsolomon Oct 17 #8
Corpses of hostages are a good enough reason to demand maximum pressure on Hamas to deliver what they Glorious bastard Oct 17 #9
To this point, "maximum pressure" has meant starving 2 million people, some to death. maxsolomon Oct 17 #10
as per my post, maximum pressure on Hamas by the international community and humanitarians of all colors. Glorious bastard Oct 17 #11
Other than Netanyahu's years-long campaign of deliberate civilian murder... Orrex Oct 17 #13
For one, condemn them at least as frequently as they do Israel Glorious bastard Oct 17 #14
How will that put pressure on Hamas? And who's making excuses for them? Orrex Oct 17 #15
You think it will not? Glorious bastard Oct 17 #16
Seriously? Orrex Oct 17 #17
This is getting even more bizarre. Glorious bastard Oct 18 #18
In an unsurprising move, you resort to mischaracterizing my position. Repeatedly. Orrex Oct 18 #19
So much effort to avoid one simple question! Glorious bastard Oct 18 #21
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