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38. I agree with this except for the fact

Sun Oct 19, 2025, 02:27 PM

Oct 19

That Israel’s rightward lurch over the last decade signals that it isn’t interested in a lasting peace either, at least not one that allows for Palestinian self rule.

If you have heard anything from the current Israeli administration, its clear they don’t believe in a two state solution, and much of the rhetoric is about driving Gazans out of Gaza, and making life for residents of the West Bank miserable as well. They’re one step away from annexing the West Bank and ethnically cleansing their residents and have basically already done as much in Gaza by flattening it and withholding aid. Not sure why I should believe it’s government anymore than Hamas at this point.

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Israeli military launches attack on Gaza, Israeli media reports [View all] irisblue Oct 19 OP

As long as Hamas exists the chance for anything resembling peace is zero. madaboutharry Oct 19 #1

As long as Palestinians exist in their homeland the chance for anything resembling peace* is zero. AloeVera Oct 19 #3

Over two million Palestinians existed in Israel for decades. Glorious bastard Oct 19 #7

Netanyahu's plan WmChris Oct 19 #11

IMHO, Netanyahu's plans doesn't extended beyond saving his ass. Glorious bastard Oct 19 #14

Israelis existed in Palestine for hundreds of years before the Zionists came from Europe. LiberalArkie Oct 19 #17

I think that is a rather confused perception stopdiggin Oct 19 #25

Yes indeed. And everyone was relatively peaceful until the Balfour Declaration. LiberalArkie Oct 19 #28

WITHOUT Israel - or any notion of ANY form of Jewish state stopdiggin Oct 19 #32

Except the periods of warfare waged by various powers like Glorious bastard Oct 19 #54

Treatment of Jews in pre- Israeli Palestine Mossfern Oct 19 #33

Yes - but, "everyone mostly got along .." stopdiggin Oct 19 #35

Yeah Mossfern Oct 20 #57

You did it to me so I am free to do it to you. Is that what you're getting at? paleotn Oct 19 #40

No Mossfern Oct 19 #47

No. what a handful of posters are trying to articulate stopdiggin Oct 20 #60

Israelis only existed between around 900 BC to around 650 BC Glorious bastard Oct 19 #53

Not decades, sir, MILLENNIA! Seriously, got history?? Exp Oct 19 #44

I am not sure what you intended to fix for me, but whatever it is, Glorious bastard Oct 19 #52

Nearly all land was stolen at one point in time, or lost in war Polybius Oct 19 #43

I agree with this except for the fact fujiyamasan Oct 19 #38

And some forces that don't reach very far at all.... paleotn Oct 19 #39

There is no certainty of whether this was Hamas or moniss Oct 19 #42

We were told all that was necessary was for iemanja Oct 20 #56

"Trump-brand peace will last 3,000 years. Trust me." - Republican Felon-in-Chief Champp Oct 19 #2

More like 3 days, if that. ananda Oct 19 #10

Terror operatives fired RPGs at Israeli troops in Rafah today, says IDF, prompting airstrikes Glorious bastard Oct 19 #4

Yep. And thanks for being the single post on this thread .. stopdiggin Oct 19 #29

Is there a Nobel Failed Peace Prize TSF can get? sinkingfeeling Oct 19 #5

GOP failed foreign policy in action. bronxiteforever Oct 19 #6

What Traildogbob Oct 19 #9

Well, this is no surprise, but it is sad. Biophilic Oct 19 #8

This was a charade from the beginning PSPS Oct 19 #12

Exactly. NH Ethylene Oct 19 #15

then Hamas must be playing on the Kushner/Trump team as well .. ? stopdiggin Oct 19 #27

Thus continues Netanyahu's years-long campaign of deliberate civilian murder Orrex Oct 19 #13

"...U.S.-mediated ceasefire..." MorbidButterflyTat Oct 19 #48

Weren't we betting it would hold for two weeks? Turbineguy Oct 19 #16

It was great the hostages were returned, but the impression I got from much of the media was that Fil1957 Oct 19 #18

look at Netti's track record - he has done this before - azureblue Oct 19 #50

Bibi used the, "peace," to get Gazans to come back home, Bayard Oct 19 #19

Well, to build hotels, resorts, condos Bettie Oct 19 #36

The cease firer lasted longer than I thought it would. republianmushroom Oct 19 #20

I'm 90% sure that the apricothellbeast is more hated then Shrub Bush was in 2003-2009 irisblue Oct 19 #21

Welllllll......since you asked Farmer-Rick Oct 19 #23

The I.D.F. LOVES to BOMB Gaza!. Antifa Ideology will NEVER FORGIVE. Exp Oct 19 #22

Ah Shit pwb Oct 19 #24

Good thing there was a peace agreement WestMichRad Oct 19 #26

Gosh! What a totally unexpected surprise! Let the genocide resume! Iggo Oct 19 #30

So let me get this straight Bluestocking Oct 19 #31

From the minute the cease fire was announced, we all knew this was a farce. Paper Roses Oct 19 #34

Was only a matter of time. paleotn Oct 19 #37

Just look at this jackass. LudwigPastorius Oct 19 #41

Ah, the art of the Trump deal strikes again! n/t AntiFascist Oct 19 #45

So I guess this means that Trump is down to Bluetus Oct 19 #46

The last thing I would do is defend Hamas or any such group that launches terrorist attacks and takes hostages fujiyamasan Oct 19 #49

They didn't have any hostages two years ago, yet they attacked. Glorious bastard Oct 19 #55

It wasn't just odd -- it was evil and stupid fujiyamasan Oct 20 #58

And yet, two years ago, being evil and stupid, they attacked without having hostages as bargaining chips. Glorious bastard Oct 20 #59

Why would they also bother giving up the only leverage they had? fujiyamasan Oct 20 #61

Because the price they paid for holding them became too high. Glorious bastard Oct 21 #62

This reminds me ofstories from before trump brought peace to the Middle East. mwb970 Oct 19 #51