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WSHazel

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31. I wouldn't be surprised if there are back channel talks

Wed Jul 8, 2026, 08:28 AM

Jul 8

Between the EU and Russia. The EU should offer Russia a deal to end war. Conditional membership to the EU based on various free market and political reforms over the next 10 years. Ukraine gets immediate membership to EU.

The big carrot for Russia would be ending NATO. The EU + Canada would reconstitute as a new military alliance. Add Ukraine, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and South Korea.

Russia is in no condition to fight anyone, ever again. The economy is in shambles, the demographics are disastrous, and the military is spent. The Europeans would annihilate the Russian military if it came to that, and the Europeans have nukes. Putin’s own position in Russia is in jeopardy with how badly the war is going, but a conditional membership to the EU would probably protect him. He might take it.

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Trump says he doesn't want anything to do with Spain: 'Cut off all trade' [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Jul 8 OP

Very Presidential -misanthroptimist Jul 8 #1

What a petulant child he is. Lonestarblue Jul 8 #2

Another day, another massive embarrassment to the USA, under this godforsaken piece of shit LymphocyteLover Jul 8 #19

I live in Spain now and I can tell you sdfernando Jul 8 #3

Yeah? Well see how happy yiz are when there ain't no more McDonalds or Starbucks. 3Hotdogs Jul 8 #15

I could see MyOwnPeace Jul 8 #28

Burgers are a big deal here and so is coffee sdfernando Jul 8 #43

The coffee - - - years ago my step daughter was in Spain for junior season abroad. Joyce joined her for a week. 3Hotdogs Jul 8 #50

LOL!! sdfernando Jul 8 #52

I am looking forward to the day when the rest of the world decides the same thing. OldBaldy1701E Jul 8 #23

Well, since we cut USAID, maybe. vanlassie Jul 8 #51

Spain Hosted the 2022 NATO Madrid Summit eringer Jul 8 #4

"There are a couple of others,..." Hugin Jul 8 #5

Ojo Lardass liberalgunwilltravel Jul 8 #6

Oh, I know what that means! NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 8 #7

Trump is... GiqueCee Jul 8 #34

In 2025, Spain spent 2.1% of GDP on defence, more than France, Belgium, Italy, Turkey or Canada muriel_volestrangler Jul 8 #8

Trump's insults of course never have anything to do with reality MadameButterfly Jul 8 #13

Either that or... Trueblue Texan Jul 8 #17

Agreed Delphinus Jul 8 #22

😬 WTF.... he's delusional.... He thinks he's king of the world.... He's like a petulant child with a loaded gun ashredux Jul 8 #9

More like a gun loaded with beebees. ananda Jul 8 #37

shithole is pulling us down in the failing economic hole.................. Lovie777 Jul 8 #10

Off with their heads! 2naSalit Jul 8 #11

fat orange imbecile wolfie001 Jul 8 #12

As I recall they were the first to refuse to let trump use their air fields to attack Iran. Biophilic Jul 8 #14

Leader of the Coalition of the Unwilling. 3Hotdogs Jul 8 #16

She said you had a little weenie too yam face. twodogsbarking Jul 8 #18

Spain doesn't care Prairie Gates Jul 8 #20

Because he can't impose tariffs. no_hypocrisy Jul 8 #21

Trump's 90-minute 'beautiful phone call' with Putin just before the NATO meeting might have something to do sop Jul 8 #24

I wouldn't be surprised if there are back channel talks WSHazel Jul 8 #31

Reparations and Criminal Tribunals could be a major sticking point duckworth969 Jul 8 #40

End the war first WSHazel Jul 8 #42

Of course he doesn't care what anyone else wants mdbl Jul 8 #25

Diplomacy by snit dlk Jul 8 #26

Good God in Butter he is stark raving mad. Now was this after he threatened a war with Denmark and ... Botany Jul 8 #27

A+ for projection KS Toronado Jul 8 #29

This is getting worse and worse. We're in deep shit here, people. Joinfortmill Jul 8 #30

Attacking our allies is exactly what Trump would do if he was a Russian agent. Doodley Jul 8 #32

It won't be long before all former allies cut ties & isolate us like N Korea Tim S Jul 8 #33

I'm sure the feeling is mutual. Ray Bruns Jul 8 #35

What an asshole. Scrivener7 Jul 8 #36

Now I want to go to Spain. SidneyR Jul 8 #38

We do! /nt sdfernando Jul 8 #44

And olive oil! niyad Jul 8 #49

Baby blm is there. She says the vegetables are far superior. blm Jul 8 #53

How does this get fixed? SamuelAdams Jul 8 #39

Now Spain needs to win the World Cup. iemanja Jul 8 #41

How long will all the other nations in the NATO alliance tolerate Justice matters. Jul 8 #45

Did they refuse to kiss Donny's oversized stinky ass? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 8 #46

IIRC, they denied him use of their airports to launch attacks against Iran. BlueSpot Jul 8 #55

And almost no elected Republicans Progressive dog Jul 8 #47

MaddowBlog-Trump keeps threatening to cut off trade with Spain, but he can't follow through LetMyPeopleVote Jul 8 #48

Senile pendejo! synni Jul 8 #54