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Wonder Why

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21. I know but whether it is the prosecution or the defense, that show so distorted the reality
Thu May 1, 2025, 10:14 AM
May 2025

of the courtroom that many of the juries I served at least one person with had false impression of what goes on in a trial and what it means. I have seen many examples in those cases but I'll use one as an example.

The trial was a couple of years after the crime was supposedly committed. The police officer gave his side and the defendant painted an opposite picture. One was lying but which one. One juror said that the defendant "said he didn't do it" and that was enough for her. Others believed the police office because "they tell the truth". I noted that both the defendant and officer said they were good friends at the time and liked each other. I also noted that the officer wrote a report at the time of the incident, to me more informative because of their friendship and it was backed up with other evidence presented by the D.A. Unlike Mason and the D.A, who violate court protocol and walk up to and confront witnesses face to face and somehow pull out at the last minute such convincing evidence that the real guilty party stands up and admits their guilt, real trials are not like that at all but many jurors don't evaluate evidence but just expect results like that. If the defense attorney can't pull a rabbit out at the last minute, the defendant must be guilty. Only in one trial did something like that happen but it was the D.A. that pulled out the rabbit but, even then, the defendant did not admit anything so we had to judge the value of the rabbit, not just have an easy time of verifying the guilt.

In the case of the juror who believed that the defendant would not lie, we ended up with a hung jury, 11-1 for guilty. In the "rabbit" case, the defendant was convicted but it took a long time for us to decide.

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Judgement at Nuremberg Sneederbunk Apr 2025 #1
Same here, Nuremberg some_of_us_are_sane Apr 2025 #15
And Marlene Dietrich. I love her last scene with Tracy where she says "We didn't know." CTyankee Apr 2025 #17
The Life of Emile Zola JoseBalow Apr 2025 #2
All of those three and add Perry Mason, Harrigan and Son, Judd for the Defense, To Kill a Mocking Bird ... marble falls Apr 2025 #3
Not Perry Mason. Too hokey IMHO. I served on real juries and some people on the juries Wonder Why Apr 2025 #4
I've been on juries, too. NOTHING goes according to Hoyle, jurors don't listen to judges, attorneys ... marble falls Apr 2025 #6
What? MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #18
I know but whether it is the prosecution or the defense, that show so distorted the reality Wonder Why May 2025 #21
Love Perry Mason MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #19
Then the strawberries were battleship gray! ... marble falls May 2025 #20
The Defenders Bmoboy Apr 2025 #5
Forgot that one, it was great. marble falls Apr 2025 #7
The 1963 - 1964 ABC series ... Tarzanrock Apr 2025 #8
Never heard of this one. johnp3907 Apr 2025 #10
Oddly, the original "Miracle on 34th Street" madamesilverspurs Apr 2025 #9
12 Angry Men is my favorite. johnp3907 Apr 2025 #11
Those are my two favorites. (nt) Paladin Apr 2025 #14
It's difficult to beat the Perry Mason televison series. Tarzanrock Apr 2025 #12
Perry Mason dai13sy Apr 2025 #13
Inherit the Wind justaprogressive Apr 2025 #16
perry masonary AllaN01Bear May 2025 #22
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