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markodochartaigh

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104. From what I have seen

Fri Aug 15, 2025, 06:44 PM

Aug 15

on the internet there seems to be a tendency among younger people to drop prepositions. I'm not talking about sentences where either usage seems appropriate; i.e. "The bird flew out of the window", vs. "The bird flew out the window". I see things like "He walked out the house." "He fell down the ground." I can't think of other examples, but I do find them irritating. These are people who speak English as a first, and probably only, language.
I sincerely wish that this was my chief irritation in life. And I'm pretty sure that it would not take two minutes on an Ivy League campus to find a dozen professors who would point out that this is perfectly acceptable English and dates to the time of Shakespeare.
I don't have the time or the energy to defend English.

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Please folks, let's use our grammar correctly: we graduate FROM high school, college or whatever. We don't "graduate [View all] CTyankee Aug 12 OP

How do you know? bucolic_frolic Aug 12 #1

Is a retired newspaper editor 'expert' enough for you? Oeditpus Rex Aug 12 #5

Yes, that is correct. CTyankee Aug 12 #11

Dropping "from" drmeow Aug 12 #2

Ever heard anything about 'slang' and its usage in the American English language? The point either way, correct or not, SWBTATTReg Aug 12 #3

'They graduated high school' isn't slang Oeditpus Rex Aug 12 #21

Or: DFW Aug 14 #47

Excellent example Oeditpus Rex Aug 14 #60

Here, folks... CTyankee Aug 12 #4

The language becomes sterile and rigid if you can't say it the way it's understood bucolic_frolic Aug 12 #7

Not if they don't make sense. Saying "I graduated high school" doesn't make sense. CTyankee Aug 12 #12

I fully understand what someone means when they say they graduated college or high school LearnedHand Aug 12 #27

Yeah, the meaning is oberle Aug 12 #32

Language changes all the time and is culturally influenced LearnedHand Aug 13 #39

'Language evolves' primarily in two ways Oeditpus Rex Aug 14 #66

Not at all. What gave you that idea? CTyankee Aug 13 #45

I understand too, but the first question I want to ask them is, "Did you pass English?" CrispyQ Aug 15 #105

I graduated college sounds to me like I passed gas WheelWalker Aug 13 #35

DUzy! CrispyQ Aug 15 #106

'Sunnies' is slang, just as our 'shades' is slang Oeditpus Rex Aug 12 #22

My Pyrex measuring cup is graduated. Harker Aug 12 #6

Indeed it is. It has markings on it that tell you the measurement of what you are putting into a dish you are making. CTyankee Aug 12 #14

And it still doesn't have a degree. 58Sunliner Aug 15 #91

True, but my thermometer does. Harker Aug 15 #92

IMO, it's a sign of the times .... anciano Aug 12 #8

The simpler we explain things, the easier it is to brainwash us. GreenWave Aug 12 #9

... Harker Aug 12 #10

That doesn't bother me, but when I hear hamsterjill Aug 12 #13

Not necessarily... Harker Aug 12 #15

Are you in red-neck, rabid ass Trump Texas? hamsterjill Aug 12 #17

No, we're in upstate New York, and she gets along beautifully. Harker Aug 12 #18

I'm glad you are in a good situation. hamsterjill Aug 12 #19

And to you! Harker Aug 12 #20

'I seen' is a sign of a lack of education Oeditpus Rex Aug 12 #24

How about "jury" hamsterjill Aug 12 #30

Or "joolery." 3catwoman3 Aug 14 #82

You think like I do!!!! hamsterjill Aug 14 #85

I went to college in West Philadelphia. DFW Aug 14 #48

Is it 'eubonics' or 'ebonics'? Oeditpus Rex Aug 14 #59

My granddaughter always spoke good English womanofthehills Aug 13 #34

I came across a paperback edition of Strunk and White ... surrealAmerican Aug 12 #16

Its a freakin' internet forum, not a postgraduate thesis. nt BootinUp Aug 12 #23

Ah, that old excuse Oeditpus Rex Aug 12 #25

Hold it. What have I been doing here for 23 years ? underpants Aug 12 #26

Your comment reminds me of my all-time favorite protest sign LearnedHand Aug 12 #28

I learned how to communicate in English long before grad school. CTyankee Aug 13 #36

Congratulations! BootinUp Aug 13 #38

thank you! CTyankee Aug 14 #75

If you can't speak in the original Indo-European dialect then you are uneducated. erronis Aug 12 #29

'Snobbery' Oeditpus Rex Aug 12 #31

"graduate high school" doesn't even make sense. And we are here to make sense. Or at least I thought we were. CTyankee Aug 13 #37

What is snobbish about making English clear when you speak or write it? CTyankee Aug 13 #40

When I was a newspaper copy editor Oeditpus Rex Aug 13 #41

Yeah, I'm kinda sorry I even mentioned it. CTyankee Aug 13 #42

Doesn't bother me so much Orrex Aug 13 #33

I've always been fascinated by Du's reaction to some people Phentex Aug 14 #63

I believe I know exactly the stream-of-consciousness poster you're describing Orrex Aug 14 #72

Well the grammar improved Phentex Aug 15 #89

Most people aren't grammarians LogDog75 Aug 13 #43

Plenty of people agree with my phrasing. It is not obsolete. CTyankee Aug 13 #44

''we talk as we think, not think precisely, edit it in our minds, and then talk'' Donkees Aug 14 #46

I think it's just lazy. 58Sunliner Aug 14 #49

This is how languages evolve, I guess. But I am fascinated by how it comes apart and you have a good point. CTyankee Aug 14 #51

Then you are wrong. I am one of those posters who read lips, and went to a school pathologist. I have a BS from Penn debm55 Aug 14 #88

I understand, but I think you are a minority in this case.JMO. 58Sunliner Aug 15 #90

Good idea. And while we're at it, let's start going to the prom again... malthaussen Aug 14 #50

don't even get me started... ret5hd Aug 14 #52

Never heard that one. Uh-oh... CTyankee Aug 14 #53

'I'm in hospital' is wrong, but Oeditpus Rex Aug 15 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Aug 14 #54

Don't forget--there is another political party in the USA with their own language, grammar and set of rules DFW Aug 14 #55

People are turming the English language on its head RazorbackExpat Aug 14 #56

Ya see! It's that old slippery slope thing! I toldja so.... CTyankee Aug 14 #57

Huh? RazorbackExpat Aug 14 #58

One thing goes, then another and so on. CTyankee Aug 14 #62

Things are really weird these days RazorbackExpat Aug 16 #113

When did we drop "to be?" rsdsharp Aug 14 #61

Or "not 'to be'" Oeditpus Rex Aug 14 #64

It was common for me to hear that during the couple years I lived in western Pennsylvania. Harker Aug 14 #65

I agree with you. OR you could say "needs to be changed" or in some cases "needs changing." CTyankee Aug 14 #68

Me too. I think that's a mid west thing though. beaglelover Aug 15 #95

It is. debm55 Aug 15 #96

Or "to be graduated from" ? Iggo Aug 15 #98

Remember your audience LogDog75 Aug 14 #67

Agree debm55 Aug 14 #69

"Think different" Mosby Aug 14 #70

Yeah, those are pretty bad. "Think different" is downright stupid. CTyankee Aug 14 #71

Sounds good. I'm in. Iggo Aug 14 #73

Thanks, Iggo! CTyankee Aug 14 #74

My Grammar didn't go to high school underpants Aug 14 #76

I don't know what you were trying to say in your post, but I wish you well. CTyankee Aug 14 #77

Just trying to be jocular underpants Aug 14 #78

Well, that you are! CTyankee Aug 14 #79

Lemme check. underpants Aug 14 #80

Be of good cheer, Sir. CTyankee Aug 14 #81

You are correct DaBronx Aug 14 #83

Thank you, DaBronx! CTyankee Aug 14 #84

There is an odd (to me) speech habit in the greater Chicago area... 3catwoman3 Aug 14 #86

I've heard that but didn't know it was a Chicago thing. It's odd... CTyankee Aug 14 #87

It's an everywhere thing Oeditpus Rex Aug 15 #100

Interesting. I've lived in NY, TX, CO, MI and IL... 3catwoman3 Aug 15 #110

You are far too polite to be an effective grammar nazi... Wounded Bear Aug 15 #93

Evidently, I have annoyed some folks here on DU. CTyankee Aug 15 #94

. What I do have problems with is some posters calling others, lazy, stupid, debm55 Aug 15 #97

Meh Oeditpus Rex Aug 15 #102

But O.R. .... (and CTYankee) some_of_us_are_sane Aug 15 #108

That reminds ne of a guy who was here Oeditpus Rex Aug 15 #112

Meh some_of_us_are_sane Aug 16 #114

Things like "graduate high school" is indeed the slippery slope you describe, CTyankee. Scrivener7 Aug 15 #101

That "guys's" (guyses? - not even sure how to spell this abomination) thing makes me cringe... 3catwoman3 Aug 15 #111

I gadeated from trump univercity so you ainte got to wory about my gramer or speling. nt ImNotGod Aug 15 #103

From what I have seen markodochartaigh Aug 15 #104

The floggings will continue until your grammar improves. nt doc03 Aug 15 #107

ROFLMAO!!!!! some_of_us_are_sane Aug 15 #109