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highplainsdem

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91. LC, I'm glad your doctor gave you a diagnosis.
Mon Oct 27, 2025, 01:31 PM
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Vitamin C and lysine can also prevent and help get rid of shingles. It worked for my mother when she got shingles years ago, before there was any vaccine.

She had blisters across the back of her neck. Couldn't stand to have even strands of hair touching the blisters. The pain was agonizing.

Her GP diagnosed it as shingles and gave her a prescription for it, but told her the prescription might not work. It was fairly expensive for something he didn't have much confidence in, so she didn't bother getting it.

It was already known by then that lysine was effective against the herpes virus that causes cold sores.

Shingles is also caused by a herpes virus.

She took megadoses of lysine and vitamin C. Most of the pain from the blisters was gone by the next day. The blisters themselves were almost gone within a week. When she saw her doctor again, probably to have her INR checked because she was on a blood thinner for a-fib, she told him what she'd done, showed him the improvement in the blisters. He'd been positive the week before that she had shingles, but seeing the quick improvement, he wondered aloud if it had been a misdiagnosis. Even though it was common knowledge then that lysine helped against another herpes virus.

Btw, as for conditions that can make it more likely for either cold sores or shingles to appear - those include getting too much arginine in your diet. Arginine is an amino acid that counteracts the amino acid lysine.

The most commonly eaten.foods that are high in arginine are nuts and seeds. If you were binging on sunflower seeds, peanuts, etc., that makes it more likely you'll get a cold sore or shingles. (And I mean really binging, not having just a handful of those seed foods.) I found out years ago that binging on nuts and seeds can result in a cold sore for me. Haven't ever had shingles, though I had chicken pox as a child, so I have that herpes virus. I do take lysine regularly.

I hadn't known that shingles can cause pain even if blisters haven't appeared. That's important information, and I'm glad you posted it.

I just saw the same info on a website set up be dermatologists:

https://www.dermatologyaffiliates.com/blog/shingles-treatment-options-what-works-best

Another early indicator of shingles is skin sensitivity or pain that precedes the rash by several days, often mistaken for other conditions like a muscle ache or kidney infection. It's essential to recognize that these sensations are the varicella zoster virus reactivating within the body's nervous system.


That same page recommends lysine for shingles:

In my practice, I've observed that a well-balanced diet plays a pivotal role in bolstering the immune system, which is essential for patients battling shingles. Incorporating foods rich in vitamins and antioxidants can aid in the body's defense against the Varicella-Zoster Virus, especially for those with autoimmune conditions like lupus or skin sensitivities such as contact dermatitis. I advise patients to focus on nutrient-dense foods that support immune health, which can be particularly beneficial for those experiencing shingles in the neck area, where discomfort can be pronounced.

Moreover, I recommend that patients with shingles increase their intake of foods high in lysine, an amino acid that has been shown to help manage viral conditions. This is especially important for individuals with immune-compromising conditions like uveitis or a history of measles, as their systems may require additional support to combat the shingles virus effectively. By ensuring a diet that supports immune function, patients can create a stronger foundation for their overall shingles treatment plan, potentially reducing the severity and duration of their symptoms.

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Yes shingles pain can be very bad. Irish_Dem Monday #1
It's nasty business. LuckyCharms Monday #3
I wonder what your pain level would have been without the vaccine. Irish_Dem Monday #7
Probably much worse, if that's possible! LuckyCharms Monday #14
I agree, hard to imagine worse pain that you are describing. Irish_Dem Monday #15
It makes you wail in agony. Horrible shit. LuckyCharms Monday #16
I once had severe dental pain that bad. Irish_Dem Monday #18
Yikes! : ( electric_blue68 Yesterday #125
I had shingles all over upper front, sides, and back. Dixiegrrrl Yesterday #131
They goodness they found out what is causing your pain, dear LuckyCharms. choie Monday #122
I'm scared shitless of getting samplegirl Yesterday #133
Glad to hear you've finally got a dx that might be helpful. Good for you. Biophilic Monday #2
Thanks, Biophilic. LuckyCharms Monday #6
At least you know what you're dealing with True Dough Monday #4
I'm glad you are here too. LuckyCharms Monday #8
Oh gosh Nittersing Monday #5
Thank you, Nittersing. LuckyCharms Monday #10
At you least you have a diagnosis for the pain 10 Turtle Day Monday #9
Thank you, I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that LuckyCharms Monday #12
Thanks for the education! chowder66 Monday #47
Me too Katcat Monday #49
I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm very familiar with the soul-sucking pain shingles causes. catbyte Monday #11
catbyte, I'm so so sorry. LuckyCharms Monday #13
Dang! : ( electric_blue68 Yesterday #126
Well shit, Lucky! Niagara Monday #17
Thanks, Niagara! LuckyCharms Monday #19
You're welcome, Lucky! Niagara Monday #103
Oh you dear heart! So very very sorry you are dealing Ninga Monday #20
Thank you, Ninga! LuckyCharms Monday #22
I had the shingles vaccine Mblaze Monday #21
I'm so sorry you went through that, Mblaze. LuckyCharms Monday #24
I am so glad you have an answer, and now maybe can be treated effectively. niyad Monday #23
Thank you, niyad! LuckyCharms Monday #26
Thank you! Sorry you had to go thru all that suffering first. Yes, shingles is weird and FailureToCommunicate Monday #25
Wow. I'm glad it worked out for your brother! LuckyCharms Monday #29
No, no visible sores, systemic. And they said if he hadn't been treated right away FailureToCommunicate Monday #76
I ask because I just had a sudden retinal bleed... LuckyCharms Monday #78
Oh dear. Well, hang in there. FailureToCommunicate Monday #104
I'm so sorry you had to go through all that. Thank you for your generosity in sharing that info. nt AnotherMother4Peace Monday #27
Thank you LuckyCharms Monday #31
My Father in law got a bad case years ago... MiHale Monday #28
Thanks, MiHale! LuckyCharms Monday #34
So awful that you are going through this people Monday #38
I've been procrastinating my shingles vaccination. No more! Calling to schedule it today! Ziggysmom Monday #30
Thank you. I dread to think how bad this would be... LuckyCharms Monday #35
Re - Shingles pain drmeow Monday #32
The thing is... LuckyCharms Monday #36
I've had that happen Farmer-Rick Yesterday #140
Did Dr tell you the contagion doesn't spread shingles dweller Monday #33
Thanks, Dweller... LuckyCharms Monday #39
Three cheers for your NP who determined what is causing your pain. greatauntoftriplets Monday #37
Thanks greatauntoftriplets LuckyCharms Monday #40
That's a long time to spend with a patient. greatauntoftriplets Monday #43
I'd rather see a NP than a MD. Actually almost any nurse (PA, RN, etc.) are more personal erronis Monday #54
Thanks, erronis... LuckyCharms Monday #72
"Sure, they can't all give diagnoses and prescribe all the drugs... 3catwoman3 Monday #111
Didn't mean to spread misinformation. I thought many specialties had to use MDs. erronis Monday #112
Depends on specialty and what we've learned/been taught to do. 3catwoman3 Monday #116
"No clavicles" - wow. Sometimes it is just astute observation and common sense. erronis Monday #118
It's good news that at least you understand what's going on. NNadir Monday #41
Thanks a lot, NNadir LuckyCharms Monday #44
I've been thinking about you ReRe Monday #42
Thank you, ReRe! LuckyCharms Monday #45
If you've already had Shingles, can you get it again? CTyankee Monday #46
I got my shots too... LuckyCharms Monday #50
How do you get Shingles? I used to know this but my memory fails me here... CTyankee Monday #52
It's a virus... LuckyCharms Monday #82
all us geezers already have the virus in us Skittles Monday #120
If you've ever had chicken pox, you can get shingles later in life. LudwigPastorius Monday #94
Thanks. Yes I did have chicken pox as a kid (before we had a vaccine). I'm old. CTyankee Monday #98
Thank you LuckyCharms for the PSA! Faux pas Monday #48
Thanks a lot, Faux pas! LuckyCharms Monday #51
I feel for ya Lucky. darkstar Monday #53
Holy shit...I'm so so sorry. LuckyCharms Monday #57
Felt it in my bladder too. darkstar Monday #63
Damn! LuckyCharms Monday #66
Glad you finally have a diagnosis rurallib Monday #55
Thanks, rurallib! LuckyCharms Monday #61
a stress reaction? progressoid Monday #56
Haha! LuckyCharms Monday #59
Please keep us updated on how your treatment is going The Blue Flower Monday #58
Thanks, yes I will do that... LuckyCharms Monday #62
oh that sucks. barbtries Monday #60
Thanks a lot, barbtries. LuckyCharms Monday #64
I'm so glad they finally figured it out! CaptainTruth Monday #65
I had no idea either! LuckyCharms Monday #68
at least you have a cause for your pain now samnsara Monday #67
Thank you, samnsara... LuckyCharms Monday #69
One More Idea IroningBored Monday #70
Thanks so much for the good info! LuckyCharms Monday #73
Here's something for you to keep in mind. There's something even worse than shingles, although it sounds Vinca Monday #71
Vinca...I'm so sorry you went through that. LuckyCharms Monday #75
When the rash heals the pain can remain. Having them in your crotch area is unpleasant. twodogsbarking Monday #74
So sorry you went through that... LuckyCharms Monday #77
I doubt the intense pain will last long. Nerve pain from surgery isn't quite the same but shingles hits the nerves hard. twodogsbarking Monday #80
Wow. I am so glad you finally got a diagnosis. I would never have even thought about LoisB Monday #79
Thank you, LoisB LuckyCharms Monday #87
Sorry you've been through this IbogaProject Monday #81
Thank you. LuckyCharms Monday #88
Oh, wow Lucky Charms! slightlv Monday #83
Thanks for posting this Picaro Monday #84
"...and they ask if I'm okay with a PA." 3catwoman3 Monday #108
Well, dang.... Bayard Monday #85
So glad you found the reason for your pain. Hope you feel better soon. 58Sunliner Monday #86
After my mom died, a few months later my Dad started complaining of somewhat vague pain. vanlassie Monday #89
When I first read of your pain it made me sad because Polly Hennessey Monday #90
LC, I'm glad your doctor gave you a diagnosis. highplainsdem Monday #91
What kind of mega C dose are you talking about. It's been some yrs but I've take... electric_blue68 Yesterday #127
If I recall correctly (this was more than 20 years ago), it was 1-2 grams of vitamin C and 1 gram of lysine with highplainsdem Yesterday #141
TY. Oh, I wouldn't add anything *Until* I check w my practioners, and pharmacy! electric_blue68 23 hrs ago #142
Yep, my bout with shingles was a solid 9 out of 10 on the pain scale. LudwigPastorius Monday #92
I'm so glad you found some relief! Trueblue Texan Monday #93
It's getting difficult for me to respond... LuckyCharms Monday #95
I know the pain you are experience, Lucky Charms. I was on a Christmas tour in NYC and got Shingles on one side of my debm55 Monday #96
What a relief to know the actual diagnosis is something that will eventually go away. summer_in_TX Monday #97
Oh, Lucky Charms, I'm so glad you are actually getting help at last! HeartsCanHope Monday #99
I agree on the NPs - I have one now also and she's the best TBF Monday #100
Wow! Good news AND good advice! Thanks! Perhaps a "health tips" forum would be good here. I experienced a weird Exp Monday #101
Wow UpInArms Monday #102
Yea for you Lucky - hope this provides some light at the end of the tunnel of pain for you. Marie Marie Monday #105
Dammit. That is so deeply concerning. The pain must be intense. MRI will provide more insight. Take care, ED Evolve Dammit Monday #106
Just one more reason to love you, LC. littlemissmartypants Monday #107
Thanks so much for the words-to-the-wise, LuckyCharms! calimary Monday #109
As a now retired NP (peds was my specialty), it very gratifying to hear that an NP... 3catwoman3 Monday #110
NPs are the best. Sometimes they know things the doctors just don't. Get well sooooon LC 💚 Clouds Passing Monday #113
I got my Shingles shot when my neighbor told me how awful it is. BigmanPigman Monday #114
Unfortunately vaccinations aren't always 100% effective, BigmanPigman Niagara Yesterday #135
Good info! Thanks a lot. BigmanPigman Yesterday #136
You're welcome! Niagara Yesterday #137
My sister had seriously painful shingles about 9 or 10 years ago FakeNoose Monday #115
I have a family member who got their vocal cords attacked by shingles. It caused mucifer Monday #117
At least you found out what it is! 2naSalit Monday #119
Yikes! SleeplessinSoCal Monday #121
My husband used the really strong Capsaicin to relieve pain from shingles Marthe48 Monday #123
Thanks for the education indeed. Sharing. soldierant Monday #124
Woah, shingles! Who'd guess that! May each batch of hours bring you more, And More Relief, LC! And All Gone ASAP! electric_blue68 Yesterday #128
Thank you for sharing this. stillspkg Yesterday #129
Here's the question: What the hell is shingles?! Does any other virus do this? Wow! C Moon Yesterday #130
I hope mgardener Yesterday #132
we could solve all this shit if we got rid 0f the chickenpox vax. pansypoo53219 Yesterday #134
OMG! What a nightmare. Nurse Practioners & Physician Assistants rock! Joinfortmill Yesterday #138
Thanks for posting this. NH Ethylene Yesterday #139
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