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spin

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28. What's out of sight is out of mind. ...
Sat May 4, 2013, 10:58 PM
May 2013

There is a movement to allow open carry in Florida but I would guess it will face a hard battle before it ever passes as seeing Floridians openly carrying heat might scare off some tourists from Europe and some liberal states such as New York or Illinois. Paranoia is not uncommon among those who have had little exposure to the gun culture that exists in the Sunshine State.

I should point out that despite the fact that Florida leads the nation in the number of people with carry permits, gun crime is at an all time low.

Florida firearm violence hits record low; concealed gun permits up
Debate continues over relationship between guns and crime

By JACOB CARPENTER
Posted January 6, 2013 at 5:15 a.m.


In the so-called Gunshine State, home to the most gun permits in the country, firearm violence has fallen to the lowest point on record.

As state and national legislators consider gun control laws in the wake of last month's Connecticut school shooting, Florida finds itself in a gun violence depression. The Firearm-involved violent crime rate has dropped 33 percent between 2007 and 2011, while the number of issued concealed weapons permits rose nearly 90 percent during that time, state records show.
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2013/jan/06/fla-firearm-violence-hits-record-low/


I am not saying that more guns = less crime as there are far too many factors in the crime equation to draw such a simplistic conclusion. Still it would seem that if allowing people to legally carry firearms was a terrible idea, the gun crime rate would have increased not decreased when more concealed weapons permits were issued.

I've found that most Floridians who do carry on a regular basis usually carry light, compact handguns. The warm climate in Florida makes even wearing a light jacket during most months unusual and it's hard to conceal a large handgun under light clothing.

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Gun-free dining in Tennesee [View all] Tanuki Apr 2013 OP
Long list is interesting. Even includes groups like American Legion. Wish these restaurants luck. Hoyt Apr 2013 #1
It may go the same course as smoking BlueStreak Apr 2013 #2
While there have been incidents in which a person with a carry permit had an accidental discharge .. spin Apr 2013 #4
I wonder about that. Before Sandy Hook, we really didn't see all that many reports BlueStreak Apr 2013 #10
I see your point but ... spin Apr 2013 #11
What percentage of shooting do you think actually get into that database? BlueStreak Apr 2013 #15
I see no problem with this but I refuse to do business with any establishment ... spin Apr 2013 #3
Gee, I try to stay out of establishments that make me feel a need to carry, rather then leave it in firenewt Apr 2013 #5
The problem is rarely the establishment. ... spin Apr 2013 #6
Very good points - may have to reconsider when and where I carry. Hasn't been an issue in recent firenewt Apr 2013 #8
not so fast daybranch Apr 2013 #9
Long ago in a martial arts class I learned some wisdom. ... spin Apr 2013 #12
Paranoia reigns daybranch Apr 2013 #7
I have no problem with whatever requirements you choose to impose on your customers. ... spin Apr 2013 #13
You seem to be leaving the alcohol factor out of your equation. Tanuki Apr 2013 #14
First I have personal experience of the tragedy that mixing alcohol with handing a firearm can ... spin Apr 2013 #16
I would be grateful Control-Z May 2013 #22
I would have absolutely no problem with that. ... spin May 2013 #23
You are not going to convince anyone Control-Z May 2013 #24
Statistics do not back your assertion up. ... spin May 2013 #25
Pfft. (nt) Control-Z May 2013 #26
Who is afraid to go there? Travis_0004 May 2013 #27
What's out of sight is out of mind. ... spin May 2013 #28
This is the useful crap our legislators do during a recession... 4_TN_TITANS Apr 2013 #17
Looks like we should lobby the Restaurant Association southerncrone Apr 2013 #18
Wow GradETSU May 2013 #19
Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin May 2013 #20
What part is crazy? Control-Z May 2013 #21
Trolling in Tennessee Tanuki May 2013 #29
I live in a small town Go Vols Jun 2013 #30
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