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Warren DeMontague

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9. Oh, come on. Asking someone out is to rape what shaking hands is to punching someone in the face.

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:30 PM

Aug 2012

"invade a stranger's space in order to attempt to have sex with them" is what happens every weekend, at a million bars all over this planet.

And, also, "Can I buy you a drink" or "Would you like to have coffee with me" is hardly storming the beaches at Normandy.

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Okay....I'm lost. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #1

No really Dawkins made a complete ass out of himself on this. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #2

You referenced rape and murder 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #3

"Hitting on women equated to rape". Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #4

I'm sure many a rape has started with "hi" 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #5

Oh, come on. Asking someone out is to rape what shaking hands is to punching someone in the face. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #9

no it really isn't. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #11

Look, man, I'm married, so I'm not personally propositioning women at all. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #15

This sort of thing wouldn't happen if women were required to be escorted by a male relative 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #18

Really? You never 'picked up' a woman in a public place? Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #8

Did I say I've never done it? No I said we should stop doing it. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #12

Here's what I would say: If it were me, I never would have made the initial approach if I hadn't Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #27

Your suggestion sounds a bit Victorian to me Major Nikon Aug 2012 #35

What's wrong with the blog you linked from A&A? redqueen Aug 2012 #6

Nothing. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #7

try the comments. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #13

And that comment is fucked up. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #17

how is a woman supposed to know which type of man is hitting on her? Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #21

"horndog activity"? Did he try to hump her leg, or something? Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #24

See that would have been an example of an inappropriate pickup line 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #19

Also, did you know, SHE'S A WOMAN? Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #29

LOL, yeah... and? Herman Cain is black, and that is equally meaningful as whatever point redqueen Aug 2012 #36

You don't remember the threads about Robert Jensen? Really? C'mon. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #37

You know... Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #38

I think Dawkins made the mistake of coming off sounding like a slightly out of touch old coot Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #10

Um you know Dawkins is in my age group. That means he went through the feminist Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #14

He did, but maybe he wasn't paying attention. Maybe he didn't care. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #16

There are three rules to hitting on women in public without eliciting this sort of outcry 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #20

maybe we are unclear on the term "hitting on women". Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #22

So you can talk to women in public but not in any way hint that you might want to have sex 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #25

I don't know. Most of the women I know don't buy into the "Polly Pureblood whose delicate virtue Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #26

and that trivialization of the issue is completely fucked up. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #23

After reading this, the other article, and some of the replies here, I can only say... Behind the Aegis Aug 2012 #28

Let's be real clear: If the "encounter" had continued past her saying no or expressing disinterest, Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #30

I see this happen quite frequently here at DU. Behind the Aegis Aug 2012 #31

Men Will Never Truly Understand A Day In The Life of Women. But Shouldn’t We Try? seabeyond Aug 2012 #32

Agreed. And it goes both ways. Bonobo Aug 2012 #33

I didn't say I didn't understand WHY she might be uncomfortable with a man in an elevator. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #34

This topic was thoroughly hashed over the first time around, so there's not much point in continuing Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #39

OP: Richard Dawkins, Rebecca Watson and a fuss about an elevator Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #40