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ProudToBeBlueInRhody

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60. Ah, the weird old days

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 07:31 PM

Aug 2012

"A lot of people are very upset by it, but I think if a man was secure he wasn't a rapist, he wouldn't be threatened by this list," Ms. Lane said.

I've heard that before, in defense of things like the Patriot Act.

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is there actually people who believe that all men are rapists and attracted to little girls [View all] loli phabay Aug 2012 OP

No. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #1

I think it's more like all men are "potential" rapists.. Upton Aug 2012 #2

that is a novel, and what you posted is a literary device known as hyperbole. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #3

Since we're throwing out numbers.. Upton Aug 2012 #5

Nobody will up and say rape isnt a problem. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #6

okay rape is a problem. and proving rape is a problem loli phabay Aug 2012 #7

ipad much? Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #8

You equated a man who talked to a woman in an elevator with a serial killer/rapist 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #10

no i did not, you said that, I didn't. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #16

You can look at a random person for a few seconds and determine her entire life-experience 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #17

4th law... MadrasT Aug 2012 #23

Perhaps there should be men's and women's elevators 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #28

again you just trivialize the problem. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #30

Raping women in elevators is not considered acceptable 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #32

The gulf in male perceptions isn't "rape is/isn't a problem". lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #35

(b) is the one I take issue with. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #45

Point by point lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #62

Rape is a tremendous problem. Bonobo Aug 2012 #11

Treat the attractive strange woman as you would any other stranger. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #19

You layed out an awful lot of straw. Bonobo Aug 2012 #33

Lets be clear..are you suggesting 16% of men are rapists? Upton Aug 2012 #12

No I said you could not sustain your assertion that 0.1% of men commit all the rapes. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #14

What percentage of men do *you* think are rapists? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #18

I have no idea. It is related to the rape experience level for women. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #21

Well logically it has to fall somewhere between 1 person and 51 million men (16%) 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #24

My guess: 5-10%. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #26

You actually believe about 1 in 15 of the men you meet are rapists? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #31

16% of women have a rape experience in their lives. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #36

FULL STOP 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #38

"And actual rape only, not elevator talkers or porn watchers." Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #46

That had nothing to do with the 16% statistic 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #47

according to this study its about 4 percent Mosby Aug 2012 #57

There are a couple of studies cited in that piece. redqueen Aug 2012 #58

Yes, and the take away Mosby Aug 2012 #64

Yep, a small number among those who aren't caught, & none of them consider what they did as rape. nt redqueen Aug 2012 #72

So, in other words..most men aren't rapists. Upton Aug 2012 #59

So you agree that 0.1 % was total bullshit. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Upton Aug 2012 #65

Thank you.. Upton Aug 2012 #66

I'm good with 4% too. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #61

Since one in 18 men (5.5%) are CURRENTLY behind bars or being monitored, lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #67

No, it doesn't. redqueen Aug 2012 #71

Thanks for the clarification. That stands to reason. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #73

Does the CDC study work for you as a reputable source? MadrasT Aug 2012 #15

I'm curious what those stats would be if they included statutory rape 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #20

you seem to be a bit desperate to disqualify the data. nt. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #22

Pointing out flaws in the data collection 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #25

read the study. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #27

I actually linked to that same study yesterday 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #29

it IS A PROBLEM. and IT SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Aug 2012 #34

you tell me. I don't know. I objected to the assertion that 99.9% arent. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #37

Do you not understand math? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #39

Perpetrator data MadrasT Aug 2012 #40

I tried my best but couldn't find any of those articles 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #41

You've been presented with the data to back up my assertion that the number Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #43

The claims presented are based on what appears to be dubious data 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #49

Arguing about statistics is a losing proposition. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #44

Which is exactly my problem with all this 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Aug 2012 #56

I'm having a problem with "1 guy rapes 160 women." Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #42

No, that's not my argument at all 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #48

You've carefully avoided stating anything. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #55

You may come to find 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author eek MD Aug 2012 #53

It wasn't hyperbole Major Nikon Aug 2012 #54

It's remarkable really 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #13

Here's how I had it explained to me once... RevStPatrick Aug 2012 #4

Yes there are 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #9

There were the famous flaps on some College Campuses in the late 80s, early 90s Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #52

Ah, the weird old days ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #60

After the Duke case 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #68

Yeah, those sorts of tactics are beyond the pale. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #70