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lumberjack_jeff

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31. To the extent that there is, your attitude is a contributing factor.

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 12:39 PM

Nov 2012

To you, the very mention of violence against men is a ludicrous embarrassment. Why? Because the attacker was probably a man too.

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International Day for the Elimination of Violence against men [View all] 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 OP

What do the victims, men and women, have in common? Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #1

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #2

Real classy... Upton Nov 2012 #3

Like flies to honey. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #4

Just out of curiosity.. Upton Nov 2012 #10

Only when they have been massively annoying and obvious Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #11

Brave Sir Robin n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #14

The total lack of any self examination within this group is not amazing at all. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #16

Let me get this straight. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #18

He is a troll because he was shitcanned the fuck out of du for being a troll. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #24

4th law got shitcanned? I hadn't heard that. Thanks for the good news! Squinch Dec 2012 #70

Yep..bravest of the brave.. Upton Nov 2012 #28

Since you only come in here to criticize, I have to ask.- Bonobo Nov 2012 #20

Yes sure, men can and should discuss real issues that affect men Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #22

How is that relevant? lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #5

How isn't it? Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #6

Then avoid the embarassment. It's easy. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #7

i decided to come back to these threads to answer your questions La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #9

Man on man violence is clearly seen through a gendered lens. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #13

My father was abused by his wife. Bonobo Nov 2012 #21

actually i have seen a rising support for battered men La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2012 #75

I don't know but I would guess that more women are battered by men. Bonobo Dec 2012 #77

Undeniably, more women are injured by physically violent men than the reverse. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #78

I think you have us confused with someone else Major Nikon Nov 2012 #53

yeah, because it's within gender violence La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #8

In a heterosexual relationship, IPV is more likely to be initiated by the woman. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #30

I suppose men could always invent a conspiracy theory Major Nikon Nov 2012 #54

How about we just try to eliminate violence, period? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #12

And which gender would have to change the most for that to happen? Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #15

Then we're taking the wrong approach lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #17

violent people would have to change the most. as in, people who are violent. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #19

So you seriously reject the existence of male culture of violence? Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #23

I think he is saying, rightly, that violent people are violent whether men or women. Bonobo Nov 2012 #25

"There are violent men and violent women. More men? Sure, you bet." Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #26

I think this is where we part ways for sure. Bonobo Nov 2012 #27

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #29

+1 Major Nikon Nov 2012 #41

To the extent that there is, your attitude is a contributing factor. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #31

"To you, the very mention of violence against men is a ludicrous embarrassment" Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #34

How was he pampered coddled and cajoled? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #36

On the internet I'm indifferent to people. Points of argument, I can either like or dislike. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #37

If that's true Major Nikon Nov 2012 #42

No Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #32

To do that you have to admit that there is a male culture of violence Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #33

That is a certainly an authoritative sounding statement, I will grant you that. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #35

Do you know that that stat correlates to the proportion of young males in the population? Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #38

Which is one of the many things one can do with statistics. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #39

I think you have a huge blind spot here. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #40

I think you have a very poor understanding of cause and effect Major Nikon Nov 2012 #45

Warren, you have a very manipulative way of arguing. Bonobo Nov 2012 #46

For the sake of argument, let's accept for a moment that what you say is true. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #47

Sensible solutions don't line up very well with radical feminist theory Major Nikon Nov 2012 #50

Men are bad. Full stop. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #56

The idea I keep hearing is change the culture Major Nikon Nov 2012 #57

I have to assume it's something you're demanding I say, that I'm *not* saying, thats making you mad. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #48

Also. Tell me something: From a, I guess it would be, sociological perspective? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #49

As Paul Harvey used to say.... Major Nikon Nov 2012 #44

The problem with your theory is it just doesn't prove itself in the real world Major Nikon Nov 2012 #43

[I DON'T GET IT]===>... 6502 Nov 2012 #51

I don't get it Major Nikon Nov 2012 #52

Interesting... yet... 6502 Nov 2012 #60

You can get everything you need from page 1 Major Nikon Nov 2012 #65

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #68

You're operating from stereotype. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #55

You know... it's great that I'm a Liberal... 6502 Nov 2012 #61

Are you trying to say your a liberal? hrmjustin Nov 2012 #63

Okay, here are the cites. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #64

I call BULLSHIT. 6502 Dec 2012 #69

You have instincts looking for a world view to justify them. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #71

He's done in this thread Major Nikon Dec 2012 #76

"virtually all wars in history are started by men" Major Nikon Nov 2012 #66

We can go back further in history than that. Gore1FL Dec 2012 #67

this sub-argument is ludicrous. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #72

Why do you almost always have to conflate sexism with racism to make your arguments? Major Nikon Dec 2012 #73

You're equating the women of today with slaves? Upton Dec 2012 #74

Wow, and to think I have been under these misapprehensions for years!!! ElboRuum Nov 2012 #58

Um... interesting... 6502 Nov 2012 #59

I had read your comment... ElboRuum Nov 2012 #62