74% Republicans, 33% Democrats back Israel over Palestinians poll

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16. Would you then care to explain, no less excuse,

Palestinian culture and violence against Jews before 1967 when Israel first occupied the territories, including before 1947, before which Israel wasn't even a state, right wing or otherwise (and we can later discuss of WHY the left has been decimated in Israel, a lesson in democracy punishing foolish concessions and misplaced trust by the left that led to more Israeli suffering, e.g, the Second Intifada).

Also, are you seriously suggesting that the PA and Hamas, the Palestinian governments in the West Bank and Gaza, are not right-wing and racist, pretty much like all their Arab brethren? If you're in doubt, just as a small beginning, read the Hamas charter.

As always, you rationalize and excuse (to the extent you even acknowledge) anything remotely negative about the Palestinians as all due to the occupation. It's absurd, offensive, condescending, and actually denies the Palestinians their free agency. Your double-standards applied to Israel are not particularly subtle. Every time you invoke purported liberal values to decry Israel, you seem to develop complete amnesia about ingrained Palestinian illiberalism, including on matters unrelated to Israel entirely (e.g, women's and gay rights), and then fall back on little more than trite propaganda sound-bites to advance your purported points.

And, quite frankly, you really don't support "right of the Palestinians to live normal, oppression-free lives" or "believe in co-existence." You've openly and strongly advocated one state solutions, which to anyone who both knows the history of the region (and world) and listened and watched the conduct of the surrounding Arab states, historically and today, knows that such a "solution" is little more than a "final solution" for any Jews in the region, and additionally will not bring liberal values or culture to the Palestinian people.

If you truly believe in such liberal values as co-existence, freedom and human rights, you might develop some credibility by first acknowledging the atrocious state of such values among the Palestinians (and all surrounding Arab states), and demand they improve and liberalize. What better way to prove to Israelis and others that they have nothing to fear or distrust from Palestinians or their proposed state than clear demonstrations of actual Palestinian liberalism, as the terms is actually understood by classically liberal Western states? The "occupation" is no excuse, as proven by the relatively good governance and society building of other occupied people under the heel of far worse governments than Israel, such as the Kurds, Tibetans, Cypriots, etc. (people who also get FAR less financial support and political cover that the Palestinians). "Occupation" only seems to be a concern when it involves Jews.