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geek tragedy

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24. Hamas is abhorrent and vile and anathema to liberal values.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 10:20 AM
Jan 2017

The PA generally lacks principles and purpose but certainly lacks an enlightened or even modern outlook. Even as their primary function is to act as agents of Israel's security agencies.

However, the Palestinians are not going to progress and evolve while under occupation, certainly not under permanent occupation. There's really not any other agenda item other than overthrowing their oppressors as long as that is going on.

It's perfectly reasonable to state that a Palestinian state is not a workable short-term option.

The problem is that the Israelis have been using the settlements to suffocate and strangle the possibility of there ever being a Palestinian state much like a python squeezes the life out of its prey.

Of course the Palestinians hate the tribe occupying them and controlling every aspect of their lives. How did the Israelites feel about Pharaoh?

The entire Middle East is a giant shitshow. Israel is now part of that shitshow instead of offering an example of how to evolve past that dysfunction.





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Terrorist, Muslims, Palestinians, etc. HassleCat Jan 2017 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #2
We're talking government AJT Jan 2017 #3
The point you make is excellent. Also, the actual PEW poll did NOT use the word "backing" still_one Jan 2017 #5
Interesting that the Times of Israel decided to substitute the word sympathize for still_one Jan 2017 #4
the third/ fourth option kind of blurs the results Mosby Jan 2017 #6
Tich and Geek have been blind to that for years FBaggins Jan 2017 #8
I readily acknowledge that the Democratic elite political class is overwhelmingly geek tragedy Jan 2017 #9
The point you keep missing is that NEITHER republicans nor democrats agree with YOU FBaggins Jan 2017 #10
LOL geek tragedy Jan 2017 #11
The graphs in the poll show clearly a huge drop in Democratic sympathies for Israel since 2016. Little Tich Jan 2017 #15
I think its reflects the failures of the Netanyahu gov Mosby Jan 2017 #17
And a much larger percentage are prejudiced against geek tragedy Jan 2017 #19
Most anti-Semites are of course Republicans - I don't think members of the KKK vote Democrat. Little Tich Jan 2017 #23
The liberal argument for Israel is getting weaker. Little Tich Jan 2017 #7
So, you're belief that the admitted only democracy in the Middle East, branford Jan 2017 #12
Game, set, match! grossproffit Jan 2017 #13
Apartheid and racism are not conservative values. Little Tich Jan 2017 #14
Would you then care to explain, no less excuse, branford Jan 2017 #16
I seems to me as if you're blaming the victims for their own misfortune. Little Tich Jan 2017 #18
Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #21
Certain elements of rightwing ideology are hostile to democracy. geek tragedy Jan 2017 #20
Would you agree that the PA and Hamas (and most of the Arab world) branford Jan 2017 #22
Hamas is abhorrent and vile and anathema to liberal values. geek tragedy Jan 2017 #24
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