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Beastly Boy

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8. I don't view the diplomatic contacts with Hamas as "negotiations". It's extortion, pure and simple.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 12:14 PM
Jul 18

The lives and bodies of dead Israelis in exchange for the terms Hamas would have never been granted otherwise. I also regard Hamas holding the hostages to be the main reason the war is still continuing. Were there no hostages, the war would have been over long ago.

I believe that most of the Hamas negotiating team, like the bulk of Hamas leadership, reside permanently in Qatar. I have no idea how they keep contact with Hamas commanders on the ground. Probably some clandestine diplomatic contacts, had been established to make this happen.

Of course, it is the radicals and the zealots who are most interested in keeping the war going. Regardless of how many people get killed, their goals are unattainable. What is rarely, if ever, mentioned, is Hamas' radical Islamist fetish for martyrdom, usually at the expense of their subjects. Most of them have no desire to be "martyred" for the glory of Hamas but are severely punished for daring to object to this explicitly homicidal/suicidal ideology.

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I'm calling BS on this moniss Jul 18 #1
The new set of maps is no surprise for Hamas. It's what they wanted. Beastly Boy Jul 18 #6
I don't believe that Egypt is going to pressure Hamas to the degree the article implies after moniss Jul 18 #9
This cannot be regarded as an isolated incident. Beastly Boy Jul 18 #10
The point being that Netanyahu moniss Jul 18 #12
The way I understand your point is Beastly Boy Jul 18 #14
No the point is the reporting because I don't find moniss Jul 18 #19
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My bad. Just added the link. Thanks. Beastly Boy Jul 18 #3
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The link is required in LBN, but no other forum, as far as I know. Beastly Boy Jul 18 #7
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I don't view the diplomatic contacts with Hamas as "negotiations". It's extortion, pure and simple. Beastly Boy Jul 18 #8
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If this is all there is to the Hamas offer, Beastly Boy Jul 18 #15
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No, it's not return to October 6. Beastly Boy Jul 18 #18
Likewise, there is a clip from Piers Morgan's interview of Daniella Weiss which is equally unreasonable. Israeli Jul 21 #20
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