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moniss

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19. No the point is the reporting because I don't find
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 06:40 PM
Jul 18

it plausible as the report states it and I find it suspect. My reference to Netanyahu is simply for the contrast of the way reporting is done where a couple of days pass and then supposedly there is this supposed intense frustration but the Times would never be phrasing this way when Netanyahu has been considering a proposal for a couple of days. In any event the anonymous sourcing leads me to believe in the likelihood of propaganda by some party. As I said there are those in the region, not necessarily meaning Israel, that would have an agenda to weaken Egyptian leadership politically further than they are. The one constant in the entire region is factions having agendas about influence and power with each other.

That's why the West makes a chronic mistake when they lump the region into the idea of the "Arab world" as though there is a unified aspect to that label. One should always remember the factions and groups and their struggles with each other and long memories.

So bottom line for me on reports from the region involving the actions or feelings of Saudis, Egyptians, Lebanese, Syrians, Qataris etc. is to also realize the various factions and agendas within those countries within the country and externally and their history of strife with each other and shifting alliances and purposes. Some of it was always there but the British and French put it on steroids for decades and decades before WW1 through WW2 and after.

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I'm calling BS on this moniss Jul 18 #1
The new set of maps is no surprise for Hamas. It's what they wanted. Beastly Boy Jul 18 #6
I don't believe that Egypt is going to pressure Hamas to the degree the article implies after moniss Jul 18 #9
This cannot be regarded as an isolated incident. Beastly Boy Jul 18 #10
The point being that Netanyahu moniss Jul 18 #12
The way I understand your point is Beastly Boy Jul 18 #14
No the point is the reporting because I don't find moniss Jul 18 #19
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My bad. Just added the link. Thanks. Beastly Boy Jul 18 #3
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The link is required in LBN, but no other forum, as far as I know. Beastly Boy Jul 18 #7
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I don't view the diplomatic contacts with Hamas as "negotiations". It's extortion, pure and simple. Beastly Boy Jul 18 #8
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If this is all there is to the Hamas offer, Beastly Boy Jul 18 #15
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No, it's not return to October 6. Beastly Boy Jul 18 #18
Likewise, there is a clip from Piers Morgan's interview of Daniella Weiss which is equally unreasonable. Israeli Jul 21 #20
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