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AtheistCrusader

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14. And like most capitalists, they said whatever the hell they wanted to get something built.

Sun Oct 27, 2013, 11:07 PM

Oct 2013

Page 132 and a few pages beyond. Enjoy.
http://books.google.com/books?id=yE1Pyui4GpkC&printsec=frontcover&dq=City+in+the+sky+:+the+rise+and+fall+of+the+World+Trade+Center+Glanz&hl=en&ei=QHKiTuX4Dcjc0QGW8fmkBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=707&f=false

Edit: Leslie Robertson has admitted they did no calculations on the fuel load/fire subsequent to impact. So, technically, what they claimed of the towers for a 707 was true, and also true of the impacts on 9/11. The towers performed well, and did not collapse on impact.

They were brought down by the fires.

You are, however, correct to point out the considered velocity was quite a bit higher than I remembered.

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Like Rove said: We make history..... dougolat Jun 2013 #1

Great video Politicalboi Jun 2013 #2

Yep BobbyBoring Jun 2013 #3

The plane could have been made of AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #4

actually the building's designer said.... wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #6

And one of them died in the collapse. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #7

wrong! wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #9

Bullshit. Both towers were ALREADY under construction when the first prototype 747 took to the sky. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #10

my error..... wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #11

That's right. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #12

The Port Authority White Paper anticipated a 4-engine 707 jetliner Ace Acme Oct 2013 #13

And like most capitalists, they said whatever the hell they wanted to get something built. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #14

John Skilling, Leslie Robertson's boss, said the towers would survive the fires Ace Acme Oct 2013 #15

If you actually read the link/google book I provided, on the pages I specified you would find that AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #16

I probably read City in the Sky years before you did. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #17

Where do you get this bullshit from? AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #18

Robertson says fires were not factored in when he did the studies Ace Acme Oct 2013 #19

The full quote from Skilling, plus more background context is on the page I specified in the book. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #20

Skilling said the buildings were designed to take the fires. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #21

Oh yes, Skilling is going to admit in 1993 that he lied about the buildings when getting the plans AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #23

Mr. Skilling did not reference the 707 study in 1993 Ace Acme Oct 2013 #24

LOL. Hoist by your own petard. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #25

"We looked" is past tense. You're just sinking deeper. nt Ace Acme Oct 2013 #26

Read what I said, again, very carefully. I'll wait. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #27

You're just blowing smoke because you cannot admit when you are wrong. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #28

Ok, I'll spell it out for you. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #29

"We looked" is past tense. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #30

He didn't particpate in the Robertson study. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #31

How do you know? You just make stuff up. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #32

I have accepted the 'evidence' of unsubstantiated allegations. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #33

You don't know the difference between an "allegation" and a qualified "observation" nt Ace Acme Oct 2013 #34

I allow for the possibility of an honest mistake. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #35

It's not an honest mistake when a reporter writes something that's not true Ace Acme Oct 2013 #36

I do, and reporters/journalists make mistakes. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #37

They're not honest mistakes when there's a reckless failure to verify. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #38

It is an extraordinary claim. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #39

It can't be both. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #40

You are attempting to artificially define 'honest mistake'. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #41

Knowing the melting point of steel, he had to know it would be controversial. nt Ace Acme Oct 2013 #42

Why? AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #43

He would know from his access to experts that fires can't produce those temperatures Ace Acme Oct 2013 #44

Consider: dougolat Oct 2013 #22

By the way, in your stunning analysis you neglected to mention AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #8

Follow the money! Frank_Norris_Lives Jun 2013 #5