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gyroscope

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42. Dozens of contracted maintenance crews

Mon Nov 3, 2014, 03:42 PM

Nov 2014

are constantly performing routine repairs and renovation work at the World Trade Center on a daily basis.
If you have ever worked in a large office building, you will know this is the case in any large high-rise office building.

No office worker inside the WTC is going to be able to tell the difference between a normal maintenance crew
and a group of those who may only be disguised as a maintenance crew.

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9/11 Molten Metal at World Trade Center.11th September 2001. [View all] wildbilln864 Oct 2014 OP

Since Aluminum melts at 1200 degrees, what's the issue here? hack89 Oct 2014 #1

Al melts but doesn't glow bright orange when heated less than 1800 degrees F! wildbilln864 Oct 2014 #2

So molten steel is common at fires? hack89 Oct 2014 #3

" So molten steel is common at fires?" wildbilln864 Oct 2014 #4

So they slathered entire columns with thermite to melt them hack89 Oct 2014 #5

for your education: wildbilln864 Oct 2014 #6

You prove my point hack89 Oct 2014 #7

nonsense! wildbilln864 Oct 2014 #8

So what was heating the steel so long after the collapse? hack89 Oct 2014 #9

Thermite can burn for months gyroscope Nov 2014 #14

Steel beams will not act like fuel for thermate hack89 Nov 2014 #15

Huh? gyroscope Nov 2014 #16

What about super duper Theramateite??? zappaman Nov 2014 #17

Why would there be unburnt thermite in the rubble pile? hack89 Nov 2014 #18

Thermate is a hypothetical substance? gyroscope Nov 2014 #19

Your links undercut your argument of large amounts of unburnt thermate in the rubble pile hack89 Nov 2014 #20

"Unburned thermate" gyroscope Nov 2014 #21

You said there was unburnt thermite in the rubble pile, not Jones hack89 Nov 2014 #22

Nonsense gyroscope Nov 2014 #23

But the thermite would not have melted the steel beams hack89 Nov 2014 #24

Thermite cuts by melting gyroscope Nov 2014 #26

But it only melts a very small portion of the steel hack89 Nov 2014 #27

Doesn't matter if the thermate was expended gyroscope Nov 2014 #28

There was not enough molten steel to form pools hack89 Nov 2014 #29

Wrong again gyroscope Nov 2014 #32

They covered the vertical columns with tons of thermate and miles of det cord completely undetected? hack89 Nov 2014 #33

Det cord? lol gyroscope Nov 2014 #35

So you of course can show where large building demolitions are routinely done with wireless? hack89 Nov 2014 #37

Not going to address the tons of thermate? Don't blame you. hack89 Nov 2014 #38

Citibank Tower NYC - 1978 nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #41

"WELDERS started work almost immediately, their torches a dazzlement in the night sky." hack89 Nov 2014 #44

Well isn't this interesting nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #52

Except Stratsec was excused from the project in 1998 for non-performance hack89 Nov 2014 #55

Not according to CEO Barry McDaniel nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #57

Their financial report to the SEC says the project ended in 1998 hack89 Nov 2014 #58

Dozens of contracted maintenance crews gyroscope Nov 2014 #42

So how long did it take to smuggle in and install tons of thermate and wire it up? hack89 Nov 2014 #45

As long it takes gyroscope Nov 2014 #47

5 years in complete secrecy hack89 Nov 2014 #49

Bush took office January 2001 gyroscope Nov 2014 #50

Statsec was removed from the WTC project in 1998 for non-performance. Nt hack89 Nov 2014 #56

No link? gyroscope Nov 2014 #64

Their financial report to the SEC says the project ended in 1998 hack89 Nov 2014 #66

Do you agree the fires were hot enough to melt aluminum? nt hack89 Nov 2014 #25

But molten aluminum gyroscope Nov 2014 #30

How did it keep separate from all that molten steel? Wouldn't it mix? hack89 Nov 2014 #31

Gibberish gyroscope Nov 2014 #34

Lets start with "2,000 degrees that raged for a hundred days" hack89 Nov 2014 #36

Jesus Christ gyroscope Nov 2014 #40

So now the aluminum didn't cool it evaporated? hack89 Nov 2014 #43

Congrats, you live up to your name gyroscope Nov 2014 #46

So how do you distinguish the two hack89 Nov 2014 #48

Lord have mercy gyroscope Nov 2014 #51

You are the one that believes that steel beams burn like logs hack89 Nov 2014 #53

That's not what I said gyroscope Nov 2014 #62

But a very poor analogy hack89 Nov 2014 #65

Absurd gyroscope Nov 2014 #68

There was no molten pool to fall into hack89 Nov 2014 #69

What do you think happened to all the thermate after the collapse? gyroscope Nov 2014 #70

The thermate was gone in seconds hack89 Nov 2014 #73

Regardless gyroscope Nov 2014 #75

There was not enough molten steel to produce pools hack89 Nov 2014 #77

Wrong on all counts. nt gyroscope Nov 2014 #80

So cutting the columns would not collapse the building? hack89 Nov 2014 #81

That's not what I said gyroscope Nov 2014 #82

There were only forty or so core columns hack89 Nov 2014 #83

It's been explained several times gyroscope Nov 2014 #85

ok zappaman Nov 2014 #86

So if all the core columns are cut the WTC would not collapse? hack89 Nov 2014 #87

Do you agree that the WTC collapse obviously looked like CD? nt hack89 Nov 2014 #84

No doubt about that! gyroscope Nov 2014 #89

Which means the columns did not have to be melted, just cut. hack89 Nov 2014 #91

So why didn't they use high explosives? hack89 Nov 2014 #92

"emersed"? zappaman Nov 2014 #54

The spelling Nazi strikes again gyroscope Nov 2014 #63

says the guy who said zappaman Nov 2014 #67

The thread is mainly about the science of 9/11 gyroscope Nov 2014 #71

So why haven't you presented any science? zappaman Nov 2014 #72

Why haven't you? gyroscope Nov 2014 #74

Cuz I like to sit back and watch you get your ass handed to you. zappaman Nov 2014 #76

So the spelling Nazi gyroscope Nov 2014 #78

Uh huh zappaman Nov 2014 #79

Where'd you go to school? The Ebonics Academy? gyroscope Nov 2014 #88

Lol. zappaman Nov 2014 #90

"...at one point I think they were at 2800 degrees! " William Seger Oct 2014 #10

your link cites the temps five days later.... wildbilln864 Nov 2014 #11

That's the only series of aerial "hotspot" readings that were taken William Seger Nov 2014 #13

No melted steel on 911, 911 truth fails, and falls short of Creative Speculation standards superbeachnut Nov 2014 #12

FEMA: Limited Metallurgical Examination nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #39

Having posted a mechanism to melt steel after the collapse without thermite hack89 Nov 2014 #59

1000 C means no melted steel. You proved no melted steel on 911 - you are a debunker superbeachnut Nov 2014 #60

No melted steel found. superbeachnut Nov 2014 #61