everything you said: portion control, etc.
Anything I've ever read on eating says you can have all the fruits and veggies you want.
Unless you eat them raw or just boiled, this is not true. When I get through with them - cheese, etc. they are high in calories. That is the reason I'm thinking if I could do the liquid - and just hold my nose and drink it down - I wouldn't care if the veggies were not "dressed up" into a casserole, fried, or any way to make them fattening (and taste good.)
By the way, I was skinny - not just thin - all my life - then middle age spread set in. Now in old age, I am heavier than ever. I've always walked and now my knees hurt and I know it is the weight.
Didn't mean to blabber on - sorry 
PS My spelling check is not working so this is probably illiterate.
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