Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

jimmy the one

(2,776 posts)
27. NSSF opposes Child Access Prev laws
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:28 PM
Sep 2015

sarisaka: Ultimate irony- "gun safety" groups are petitioning against a proven gun safety program. 37 million lock have been freely distributed over sixteen years, mostly through law enforcement.

NSSF: They {various gun control groups} also made false claims about the quality of the program’s cable-style gun locks.

NSSF’s Project ChildSafe program has been plagued with problems from the start. At one point, hundreds of thousands of the locks they distributed to law enforcement had to be recalled because they were so flimsy.
There has been no bigger opponent of sensible gun reform than {NSSF}National Shooting Sports Foundation. They have relentlessly lobbied against every single piece of legislation that would prevent children from obtaining unauthorized access to firearms, including Child Access Prevention laws and criminal penalties for adults whose weapons are obtained by minors.
http://www.truebluepolitics.com/tag/gun-locks/

sep 2013: Since 1999, the NSSF has coordinated a safety initiative to distribute gun locks to law enforcement agencies, which in turn pass them on to gun owners, free of charge.. the implementation has been plagued by problems. Hundreds of thousands of the flimsy, fragile locks were recalled. Then, when a $50 million DoJ grant dried up and NSSF was obliged to finance the lock giveaway on its own, the program was scaled back significantly. http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/09/the-gun-lobbying-group-you-dont-hear-about/279616/
Last year, NSSF lobbied in support of the Sportsman’s Act of 2012, which included a number of provisions regarding conservation of public lands, access and fees for hunters, and a clause that would have exempted ammunition from regulation by the Environmental Protection Agency. Ecologists objected, saying the lead bullets and chemicals in gunpowder are dangerous to certain habitats..the bill ultimately failed.

sarisaka: While CSGV and Newtown Action Alliance want the money to go to a program run by a 'better' group, they offer no suggestions. That is because there is no such program among the "gun safety" organizations.

Gun locks are a dime a dozen in places; I got 3 free ones from the VA hospital I go to, & I don't even own a gun.

sarisaka: It is especially ironic that the Newtown Action Alliance is against the program as had the rifle used at Sandy Hook been secured with a cable lock, the shooter would have been at least slowed, by having to locate the key, if not stopped entirely.

Utterly specious lame reasoning. As if adam lanza would'nt've been able to access his mother's ar15 bushmaster, had it been locked (dunno if it was or wasn't). I bet he knew where the key was. His mother was a 'law abiding gun owner' as well as a gunnut: Nancy Lanza as a "gun enthusiast who owned at least a dozen firearms". She often took her two sons to a local shooting range and had them learn to shoot. Peter Lanza said he does not believe Nancy Lanza feared her son Adam. She did not confide any fear of Adam to her sister or to her best friend; she slept with her bedroom door unlocked and she kept guns in the house where she lived with Adam.[

Specifically, NSSF:
•Opposes all legislation that would require parents to safely store firearms in the home in the manner described in their Project ChildSafe Safety Kit brochure.
•Opposes Child Access Prevention laws to hold adults criminally responsible when children gain unauthorized access to their firearms.
•Supports unprecedented legal immunity for the gun industry, which prevents parents (and others) from bringing lawsuits against the industry when they market and/or distribute their products in a negligent manner.
•Supports lowering the age at which Americans can purchase firearms and carry them in public.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Tug of war over children's lives [View all] sarisataka Sep 2015 OP
Wanna save lives? I got a better idea, but it would require enforcing the randys1 Sep 2015 #1
You need to make up your mind sarisataka Sep 2015 #2
Obviously there is no chance we will enforce the 2nd randys1 Sep 2015 #5
So given the reality sarisataka Sep 2015 #7
I will make you a deal, federal funds to teach kids how not to shoot themselves, federal funds randys1 Sep 2015 #8
As part of a comprehensive sarisataka Sep 2015 #9
Why not now, why not give money to PP to assist? Have to overturn assholes law is all. randys1 Sep 2015 #10
Since PP is in place sarisataka Sep 2015 #12
Sounds OK to me. I have materially supported the RTCoose for decades. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #15
Children injured while playing with guns were never part of any militia. branford Sep 2015 #3
I don't think you really understand the purpose of the Second Amendment TeddyR Sep 2015 #21
Wasn't there a gun control group that said it was going to distribute locks? petronius Sep 2015 #4
Even if some vehement gun control groups like Brady or MDA actually distributed gun locks, branford Sep 2015 #6
There was a website that Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #11
You are thinking of sarisataka Sep 2015 #14
shows TOTAL GUN LOCKS: 18,681 Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #22
Wow! 17000 in one day! sarisataka Sep 2015 #24
It will be down tomorrow Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #25
You called it sarisataka Sep 2015 #26
randum number generator, lol Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #29
Just another lamentable instance ... Straw Man Sep 2015 #13
The big problem is the controllers Don't want legitimacy given the "gun culture." Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #16
I doubt they see the parallel sarisataka Sep 2015 #17
Good comparison. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #19
wasn't one of the grabbers just on here trying to claim that newtown clffrdjk Sep 2015 #18
Yes, but only if the right type of people get the money. n/t oneshooter Sep 2015 #20
would not surprise me they would be passing Duckhunter935 Sep 2015 #23
NSSF opposes Child Access Prev laws jimmy the one Sep 2015 #27
Are you referring to this sarisataka Sep 2015 #28
chinese junk locks jimmy the one Sep 2015 #30
They still gave away 2000X as many quality gun locks as the "gun safety" orgs did friendly_iconoclast Sep 2015 #31
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Gun Control & RKBA»Tug of war over children'...»Reply #27