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PATRICK

(12,289 posts)
18. Yes
Sat Jul 14, 2012, 12:29 PM
Jul 2012

Examine some first manuscripts by some famous writers, even with track records and the editing service may not be perfect but so essential that that becomes another skill probably only another skillful eye can mend- and still there is a marketing skill that may not be in the mi length, substance, appeal).

All these posts pretty much confirm what I feel the situation is regardless of the mushrooming of real self-publishing opportunity. Agents to legacy publishing= greater chance of readership and financial reward out of the universal slush pile. Yet if you want to get your work out(and still not burn your chances while in that pile) self-publishing is an excellent (now cheap and freely aided) way to learn and hone your notion to potion skills). It is also a possible way into Legacy publishing if you earn it the hard way. And it MUST be earned or at least proven successful above its peers.

The best book would be about how to write books to earn instant money? Maybe it is about finding readers or letting readers find you. A viral book video would be a great way out, but just take a look at even legacy publisher book trailers on Youtube and how few hits they get. Still, it is available and cheap to do.

If you keep running to everyone else for every writing and publishing aspect there are a lot of middlemen in the money end of things regardless of the free help- which is exactly why so much free help is being given, even taken by force. The tide of would be writers keeps one from cursing the time consuming, costly gleaners.

Who can know, but I believe the slush pile in general is less and less read, even queries. That the real slush pile of self-finished books is not examined by Legacy or agents either except for the biggest sellers/winners and maybe only after they took that record simply to the print houses themselves.
I have seen good writing and better books for the genre in that pile, but those usually are from writers already with success in print who want to expand profit and opus. They are not separate, although there should be a separate category for these people with a track record and THOSE whom they may recommend because being smaller fry and independent they have the time and generosity to boost the beginner.

The ordinary reader and agents aren't going to systematically search the currents in this ocean to discover the good stuff anytime soon. Lots of wasted talent and opportunity rare though it may be.

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Marketing: Self published and Pubishing Houses PATRICK Jul 2012 #1
Thanks. One way or another, my manuscript will be published Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #2
I disagree. For a first novel, legacy publishing makes you stand out. mainer Jul 2012 #3
I am going to make the attempt to get the agent. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #4
A few no-nos on queries mainer Jul 2012 #5
That's spot on. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #6
About queries: focus on the main character and his/her primary crisis mainer Jul 2012 #7
Hopefully I have accomplished that. Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #8
Multiply published (legacy publisher) in fiction. mainer Jul 2012 #9
Congratulations on your success! Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #10
If you have any specific questions, post them. mainer Jul 2012 #11
Well, the question that I hesitated asking because I thought it was rude... Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #12
"Legacy publishing" is a new-ish term, to distinguish it from self-publishing mainer Jul 2012 #13
Thank you so much mainer! Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #14
It has been my experience that there is a very good reason SheilaT Jul 2012 #15
Which is why readers will eventually move back to traditionally published books. mainer Jul 2012 #16
Yep. SheilaT Jul 2012 #17
Yes PATRICK Jul 2012 #18
Agents DO read queries. mainer Jul 2012 #19
I was in a writing workshop about two decades ago, and a SheilaT Jul 2012 #20
In answer to your question about proposals... sybylla Jul 2012 #21
Thanks sybylla: Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #22
If you are planning to send this to an agent, I wouldn't send a first draft. pnwmom Aug 2012 #23
I've been writing manuscripts for so long that I edit as I go along. Baitball Blogger Aug 2012 #24
Fiction Proposal Electrominuette Aug 2012 #25
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