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ProfessorGAC

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23. A Walk Is Not A Hit

Tue Jun 24, 2025, 08:46 PM

Jun 24

It was in the 1880s when walks were not only no longer a hit, but the at-bat didn't count. It was a plate appearance.
The value of walks is captured in on-base percentage, but doesn't affect batting average either way.
The answer to your question is that maybe that happened prior to 1887. But, it couldn't since then.
Oh and, HBP are treated the same as walks.
One last note: when I was a kid Billy Williams had 2 doubles, a triple and a homer in a game my parents & I went to. 11 total bases, but no cycle.
People were saying Billy should have stopped at first on the 2nd double, but I can't imagine a player's instincts would allow that. He sees a ball get to the track, he's motoring to second.

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Baseball fans: about hitting for the cycle, is an inside-the-park homer consdered... [View all] brush Jun 24 OP

It does count... but it hardly ever happens FBaggins Jun 24 #1

Right and wrong. mobeau69 Jun 24 #4

But they didn't have inside the park homers. CanonRay Jun 24 #7

That's just "hitting for the cycle" FBaggins Jun 24 #8

Sure, but an inside the park HR is just the same as any homer when mobeau69 Jun 24 #10

It should count extra ... perfessor Jun 24 #2

There should be a wording to differentate it from a standard cycle. brush Jun 24 #3

Interior cycle? Oeditpus Rex Jun 25 #25

Heehee. I vote for holy shitcycle. brush Jun 26 #40

An inside the park home run is just a home run. The hitter would also need a single, double and a triple to make a mobeau69 Jun 24 #5

Totally agree YodaMom2 Jun 24 #6

Yep, it takes four at-bats to register a "cycle" True Dough Jun 24 #9

Doubles can be "hit" but a triple requires some speed. Not all players can do that...nt Wounded Bear Jun 24 #11

Triples don't always require "some speed" WestMichRad Jun 24 #20

Harmon Killebrew, who was once described as "lumpy legged" rsdsharp Jun 25 #28

Or Very Good Placement ProfessorGAC Jun 24 #22

Ever been to or seen Oeditpus Rex Jun 25 #27

I think we all know that. That's what hitting for the cycle is, all four hit types. brush Jun 24 #12

Yep. OT: Ever see an unassisted triple play? I've only seen one myself. mobeau69 Jun 24 #13

Let's see, it would have to be bases loaded, no outs, a liner to the... brush Jun 24 #14

Runner at first and second. Line shot to ss, steps on second, tags runner barreling to second. mobeau69 Jun 24 #15

Yes. Or with a line shot to the second baseman... brush Jun 24 #16

If you watch baseball long enough you'll see crazy things you never imagined. mobeau69 Jun 24 #17

Yeah... Oeditpus Rex Jun 26 #35

You know, it might have been the second baseman. It was many years ago. mobeau69 Jun 24 #18

I have. It's hard to get there. I used to live in NYC as was on the art staff... brush Jun 24 #19

A center fielder made one Oeditpus Rex Jun 25 #29

Amazing. Never even imagined such a thing. brush Jun 25 #31

I wouldn't have, either Oeditpus Rex Jun 26 #33

How about a walk or HBP instead of a single? WestMichRad Jun 24 #21

A Walk Is Not A Hit ProfessorGAC Jun 24 #23

Yeah, a cycle isn't really brag-worthy Oeditpus Rex Jun 25 #30

Are you kidding? Hiting for the cycled is certainly an accomplishment. brush Jun 26 #32

No, I'm not kidding Oeditpus Rex Jun 26 #34

We're not in agreement. IMO hitting for the cycle is an accomplishment. brush Jun 26 #38

Good question. Does somebody know? brush Jun 25 #24

See Above, Brush ProfessorGAC Jun 26 #36

Thanks, PG. How do you know baseball history going that far back? brush Jun 26 #37

I Was A Baseball Nut &... ProfessorGAC Jun 26 #39

Yes. underpants Jun 25 #26

Usually an in park HR is the result of an error or some other mistake? Capt. America Jun 28 #41