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The Velveteen Ocelot

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24. Well, first of all I don't feel superior at all. I'm just disengaged from arguments about religion

Tue Oct 16, 2018, 01:57 PM

Oct 2018

because I don't see any use for me, personally, in arguing about whether there is or is not a god - so most of the time I don't participate in this forum at all. My basic concerns and beliefs regarding religion have to do with the extent to which it is allowed to influence our supposedly secular government. I am also interested in the history of religions and the way they have influenced society as an anthropological study, but I don't care to debate the merits or demerits of any of them. I don't feel superior to either atheists or believers in any way; I'm just not that interested in getting involved in the god vs. no god debate.

The only reason I participated in this thread at all was to comment on the absurdity of a pastor praying for Trump to receive "supernatural wisdom," since the likelihood of Trump ever getting any sort of wisdom from any source is approximately zero. My comment was intended to be neutral and I don't get why it seems to have given you such offense.

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Well, Trump Got Prayed Over Again. [View all] MineralMan Oct 2018 OP

It doesn't seem to be helping. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #1

No gods is my explanation for why it won't happen. MineralMan Oct 2018 #2

Pastor Brunson spent a couple of years in a Turkish prison, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #5

"Pray without ceasing" means our outward life should reflect a 'prayerful inner life'. sprinkleeninow Oct 2018 #11

... trotsky Oct 2018 #16

I don't worry much about it one way or the other. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #17

I understand that. And honestly, most atheists don't either. trotsky Oct 2018 #18

Whatever you say. I don't argue about religion vs. non-religion. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #19

So you don't think I'm worth listening to when I say you're mischaracterizing me. trotsky Oct 2018 #20

Not at all. I accept your characterization of your belief system. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #21

Politics is about arguments over belief systems, you know. trotsky Oct 2018 #22

Well, first of all I don't feel superior at all. I'm just disengaged from arguments about religion The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #24

It's because you mischaracterized atheism in order to position yourself more favorably. trotsky Oct 2018 #25

May your every smiting wish come true. Will you recognize it when it begins? sprinkleeninow Oct 2018 #10

Supernatural Wisdom also appears in some hellish characters in the Bible. Bfd Oct 2018 #3

Actually, I'm with you. sprinkleeninow Oct 2018 #9

I could not say the chant either. Bfd Oct 2018 #12

💙 sprinkleeninow Oct 2018 #15

I'm praying too... that the DicKKK-tator-in-Chief gets fired by the American people!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #4

Hypocrites. Both of them. Brunson for the hypocrisy and believing that rump believes his ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2018 #6

If this is an example of Christianity then count me out. walkingman Oct 2018 #7

Well, it's an example of some branches of Christianity. MineralMan Oct 2018 #8

Yup. Christianity simplified. Bfd Oct 2018 #13

Doesn't work unless you anoint them with blessed salad oil.. Permanut Oct 2018 #14

Trump doesn't allow anointing. MineralMan Oct 2018 #23

Glad he got released but that does not mean he is not a charlatan. Freethinker65 Oct 2018 #26

A Pharisee and a False Prophet walk into a bar... Thomas Hurt Oct 2018 #27

The Pharisee asks, "Who's buying?" MineralMan Oct 2018 #28

...they tried unsuccessfully to pick up Two Corinthians.... Tanuki Oct 2018 #29

One of my favorite quotes from Fiddler... 3catwoman3 Oct 2018 #30

Sorry Donny, praying ain't gonna make it bigger. C_U_L8R Oct 2018 #31