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marylandblue

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22. The problem for religion is it has to be one or the other

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 2, 2018, 10:17 AM

Nov 2018

If you like the traditional Latin mass, they still exist but are hard to find. If you are an immigrant or traveler, you may have a hard time finding a mass in your native language, making the vernacular mass no better than Latin.

It's not really my fight in any case, but it's not an easy change for any religion to make and it has its drawbacks.

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Is There Room for Discourse and Critical Thinking in Islam? [View all] guillaumeb Oct 2018 OP

I have the same response with prayers in Latin and Hindu chants gtar100 Oct 2018 #1

A nice point. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #6

If not edhopper Oct 2018 #2

Is there room for teh lulz in this attempt to stir shit up? Act_of_Reparation Oct 2018 #3

One of your more eloquent posts. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #7

Only if a particular believer allows it. trotsky Oct 2018 #4

It seems to me that this is really only an issue for Muslims. MineralMan Oct 2018 #5

We disagree. eom guillaumeb Oct 2018 #8

Why would a non-Muslim care what language a Muslim prays in? marylandblue Oct 2018 #9

I hope your question was rhetorical Major Nikon Oct 2018 #10

Seemed like a good question. He can answer anyway he likes. Or not. marylandblue Oct 2018 #11

Sometimes a non-answer provides more info Major Nikon Oct 2018 #12

Because of this: guillaumeb Nov 2018 #14

Well that's just putting a turtle on top of a turtle marylandblue Nov 2018 #16

Recitation in a language that one does not speak guillaumeb Nov 2018 #17

For some. For others it is spiritual magic, especially when chanted or sung. marylandblue Nov 2018 #18

Very true. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #19

The problem for religion is it has to be one or the other marylandblue Nov 2018 #22

One of the benefits of the Latin Mass was the teaching MineralMan Nov 2018 #23

I lived in moderate Turkish secular/ Muslim territories for many years Bretton Garcia Nov 2018 #13

Thank you for the personal insight about Turkey. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #15

Some Christians are superficially but not deeply rational on religion Bretton Garcia Nov 2018 #20

I lived in Turkey for 15 months, courtesy of the USAF. MineralMan Nov 2018 #21

Yup. Turkey was OK. I was in Izmir Bretton Garcia Nov 2018 #24

I was in Samsun. MineralMan Nov 2018 #25

Well now Turkey is in a long slide into Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #26

Islamic fundamentalism is a powerful agent. MineralMan Nov 2018 #27

Turkey's Erdogan headed into right wing religion Bretton Garcia Nov 2018 #31

I was in Turkey in '67, courtesy of the US Navy.. Permanut Nov 2018 #32

Samsun wasn't much like Istanbul. MineralMan Nov 2018 #35

In Pakinstan edhopper Nov 2018 #28

But, see...someone on the Patheos blog is being reasonable, maybe. MineralMan Nov 2018 #29

The Patheos blog is always pathetic Bretton Garcia Nov 2018 #30

It's not a frequent visiting place for me. MineralMan Nov 2018 #33

The sarcasm is far outweighed by the straw. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #36

But it makes a serviceable bed to lie in, straw does. MineralMan Nov 2018 #38

So you line your bed with straw for comfort? guillaumeb Nov 2018 #39

No, not as a rule. MineralMan Nov 2018 #40

We tried the memory foam but did not like it. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #41

I didn't like it at first, but changed my mind after MineralMan Nov 2018 #42

When you join a faith-based organization.. Permanut Nov 2018 #34

Not at all true. eom guillaumeb Nov 2018 #37