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DetlefK

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4. But we still must go from initial premises of belief to derived statements.

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 18, 2019, 10:58 AM

Jan 2019

For example, I remember in "The Name of the Rose" (a murder-mystery set in a medieval monastery) there are two factions debating just what Jesus exactly meant when he commanded his followers to give away their mundane possessions. How much poverty did he actually call for? How much is it okay to keep?

Such a debate cannot be settled from initial premises like God being omnipotent, omniscient, unchanging and whatnot.

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What counts as "proof" in theology? [View all] DetlefK Jan 2019 OP

Whatever your Clergy tells you? Thomas Hurt Jan 2019 #1

There are no actual "proofs" in theology. MineralMan Jan 2019 #2

But we still must go from initial premises of belief to derived statements. DetlefK Jan 2019 #4

Religion offers apologetics, not logical arguments. MineralMan Jan 2019 #5

Theology, sermons, are mostly "sophistry." Bretton Garcia Jan 2019 #10

Exactly. They look like logic, but aren't logical at all. MineralMan Jan 2019 #13

The initial premise is the existence of God... uriel1972 Jan 2019 #9

Yes. Every time "God" is mentioned, that initial premise is restated, MineralMan Jan 2019 #14

This is a fantastic question, and that is why you will not get an answer. trotsky Jan 2019 #3

You'll get an answer and that answer is "faith" Major Nikon Jan 2019 #6

And that sign sums up perfectly the #1 problem with religion. trotsky Jan 2019 #7

I was raised in a small town Major Nikon Jan 2019 #8

Don't get me started on 'Theodicy' uriel1972 Jan 2019 #11

We see right in this forum edhopper Jan 2019 #12

An incorrect premise, followed by others. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #15

Since theology is not science or good logic.... Bretton Garcia Jan 2019 #16

Who made a claim of rational or logical? guillaumeb Jan 2019 #17