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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Attacks that would have been used effectively on Sanders if he were the Democratic nominee [View all]Gothmog
(171,980 posts)17. Sanders was treated with kid gloves by the Clinton campaign and there was a ton of material
        VOX had a good article on the potential lines of attack that Sanders would be exposed to if Sanders was the nominee.  http://www.vox.com/2016/2/3/10903404/gop-campaign-against-sanders  One of the more interesting observations in the VOX analysis is the fact that Sanders have been treated with kids gloves compared to what Sanders would face if he was the Democratic nominee.  I strongly agree with the VOX's position that the so-called negative attacks against Sander have been mild.  Form the article:
I have no interest in litigating any of these attacks here. Like any Democrat elected president in 2016, Sanders wouldn't be able to get much done, but he would block attempts to roll back Obama's accomplishments and have a chance to fill a few Supreme Court vacancies.
When Sanders supporters discuss these attacks, though, they do so in tones of barely contained outrage, as though it is simply disgusting what they have to put up with. Questioning the practical achievability of single-payer health care. Impugning the broad electoral appeal of socialism. Is nothing sacred?
But c'mon. This stuff is patty-cakes compared with the brutalization he would face at the hands of the right in a general election.
His supporters would need to recalibrate their umbrage-o-meters in a serious way.
When Sanders supporters discuss these attacks, though, they do so in tones of barely contained outrage, as though it is simply disgusting what they have to put up with. Questioning the practical achievability of single-payer health care. Impugning the broad electoral appeal of socialism. Is nothing sacred?
But c'mon. This stuff is patty-cakes compared with the brutalization he would face at the hands of the right in a general election.
His supporters would need to recalibrate their umbrage-o-meters in a serious way.
The attacks that would be levied against Sanders by the Kochs, the RNC candidate and others in a general election contest would make the so-called attacks against Sanders look like patty-cakes. The GOP and Kochs are not known for being nice or honest and as the article notes there are a ton of good topics available for attack. Raising taxes is never a good campaign platform (Just ask President Mondale). The GOP would also raise the socialism and age issues if Sanders was the nominee.
Again, I agree with the VOX position that so far, Sanders has not been subject to negative attacks close to what the GOP would use against Sanders and the attacks against Sanders if he was the nominee would be brutal. I urge Sanders supporters to read the VOX article to start to get a feel for what real negative attacks would look like.
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                        Attacks that would have been used effectively on Sanders if he were the Democratic nominee [View all]
							Fast Walker 52
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        that is a different issue, but I think she was a better candidate overall than Bernie
        Fast Walker 52
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        environmental racist-- meaning his environmental policies might preferentially affect minorities?
        Fast Walker 52
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        a lot of those things just don't have the power they used to, and I think Sanders could have
        JCanete
        Jan 2017
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        I don't think we should under-estimate the power of rightwing bullshit after this past election
        Fast Walker 52
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        Sanders was treated with kid gloves by the Clinton campaign and there was a ton of material
        Gothmog
        Jan 2017
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        I don't mind the current system that allows exceptions for the life and health for the mother or
        bettyellen
        Jan 2017
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        I don't think it's weird. I believe it should be between a woman and her doctor
        NWCorona
        Jan 2017
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        I think it's weird because it has zero support and would be a lightening rod for those religious
        bettyellen
        Jan 2017
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        I can see it being a lightning rod as well but it's not like they would vote for him anyway
        NWCorona
        Jan 2017
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        Well they would have used anything they could find.  Unfortunately it's a big one for those
        bettyellen
        Jan 2017
        #50
      
        
        What is it with this forum????  For some reason it's mired in looking behind rather than ahead.
        Vinca
        Jan 2017
        #29
      
        
        This is nothing new and would only impact those that wouldn't have voted for him anyway.
        NWCorona
        Jan 2017
        #37
      
        
        Sanders was never vetted and so none of these materials had been used against Sanders
        Gothmog
        Jan 2017
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        I never said that they wouldn't make effective ads I don't think they would have had
        NWCorona
        Jan 2017
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        That is because Sanders was running for media coverage and his efforts hurt the Democratic party
        Gothmog
        Jan 2017
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        Maybe, but matchup polls said Hillary would lose to Trump and she did. They said Bernie would win.
        aikoaiko
        Jan 2017
        #41
      
        
        The fact is, he generally outperformed Hillary in the rust belt, in the primaries.
        Warren DeMontague
        Jan 2017
        #39
      
        
        Attack Attack attack..but just remember if Bernie Sanders had been the nominee we would
        INdemo
        Jan 2017
        #55
      
        
        so in your mind, why do you think "DNC / DWS put their boot on Sanders campaign"?
        Fast Walker 52
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