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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Registered Voters Who Stayed Home Probably Cost Clinton The Election [View all]Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)24. You're confusing two different concepts
        The exit polls from 25 primaries indicated that Sanders beat Clinton among black voters younger than 30.  Maybe the polls were wrong, or maybe there was a markedly different trend in the unpolled primaries, but this information is certainly relevant to the question of how young black voters regarded Clinton.
You go on to find a "strong suggestion" of laziness and no mention of other factors such as voter suppression.  First, there is no suggestion of laziness.  You're bringing that up only to try to lump the 538 analysis in with racist views of blacks as inherently lazy and shiftless.
Second, what you contend wasn't mentioned was, in fact, mentioned:
There are, of course, a lot of reasons people dont vote. In addition to not liking their choices, some people dont have the time to vote (they cant get off work, for example). Others are dissuaded or prevented from voting by barriers like voter identification laws.
This particular piece focused on the information available from the post-election Survey Monkey poll. The poll asked non-voters about their party affiliation or identification. The 538 piece used that fact as a proxy for how the nonvoters would have voted. It didn't pretend to be a comprehensive analysis of all the factors affecting the election. Discussing one aspect of the election doesn't equate to dismissing all the others.
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                        Registered Voters Who Stayed Home Probably Cost Clinton The Election [View all]
							portlander23
							Jan 2017
							OP
                        
        
        They're all family... all very young adults... probably not even registered to vote.
        lamp_shade
        Jan 2017
        #22
      
        
        Ok. So why do those of us who are angry at Bernie for attacking her get shit for that?
        kcr
        Jan 2017
        #8
      
        
        Nothing in this says that they would have been motivated to vote for HRC had there been no primary
        karynnj
        Jan 2017
        #19
      
        
        who the fuck has to be inspired to vote . keeping trump out of the white house wasnt inspiring
        Ohioblue22
        Jan 2017
        #15
      
        
        Only a narcissist has to be "inspired to vote" - especially with Trump as the alternative.
        yardwork
        Jan 2017
        #50
      
        
        Clinton and the DNC did not help themselves, but they still should have been able to beat Trump, and
        JCanete
        Jan 2017
        #17
      
        
        The young voters that BS "inspired" couldn't be bothered to come out and vote for BS
        SFnomad
        Jan 2017
        #34
      
        
        And that isn't why she lost.  If that's all it took, BS would have won the primary
        SFnomad
        Jan 2017
        #38
      
        
        I guess you need to tell that to the people who didn't vote or are we still blaming the voters?
        jalan48
        Jan 2017
        #60
      
        
        Because we had a spoiler drumming up division.  Not really that hard to pinpoint. nt
        JTFrog
        Jan 2017
        #61
      
        
        Fake news and hacking from Russia.  Division from the spoiler.  Comey and his fake announcement.
        JTFrog
        Jan 2017
        #69
      
        
        Yes, because ignoring all of the things that actually happened is a winning strategy.
        JTFrog
        Jan 2017
        #75
      
        
        "The biggest reason given by non-voters for staying home was that they didnt like the candidates."
        andym
        Jan 2017
        #32
      
        
        Clear support for candidates was low so why didn't DNC get a candidate who could garner more?
        snowy owl
        Jan 2017
        #37
      
        
        The voters of the Democratic Party picked Clinton, and by a wide margin at that.
        StevieM
        Jan 2017
        #52
      
        
        Does this include voters who wanted/tried to vote but were prevented from doing so by suppression
        EffieBlack
        Jan 2017
        #41
      
        
        So whether you hate Sanders or love Sanders, its agreed he would have won.
        LiberalLovinLug
        Jan 2017
        #78