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Silent Type

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39. Not exactly true. Traditional Medicare has very detailed coverage rules that prevent some questionable claims.
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 11:33 AM
Oct 29

Further, Medicare audits providers exhibiting a billing pattern that is questionable, often 3, 4, 5 years after services rendered, prompting providers to be careful.

Every few days, one reads of Medicare audits where a provider billed millions of dollar over 4 years, when no patient was even seen. Medicare doesn't catch it and we get ripped off.

MA on the other hand often has only 12 to 18 months to recoup questionable services. So they deny upfront. Most denials are overturned quickly once the doc send in records. If you don't think providers -- including Marcus Welby -- don't cheat, you are mistaken.

And, home health gets audited too.

KFF:

Key Takeaways:
"Medicare Advantage insurers made nearly 50 million prior authorization determinations in 2023, reflecting steady year-over-year increases since 2021 (37 million) and 2022 (46 million) as the number of people enrolled in Medicare Advantage has grown. The determinations represent requests for approval that providers are required to submit before providing a service. Substantially fewer prior authorization reviews for traditional Medicare beneficiaries were submitted to CMS – just under 400,000 in fiscal year 2023 – though the number of people enrolled in Medicare Advantage and traditional Medicare were similar in these years.

"In 2023, there were nearly 2 prior authorization determinations on average per Medicare Advantage enrollee, similar to the amount in 2019. In contrast, in 2023, about 1 prior authorization review was submitted per 100 traditional Medicare beneficiaries – a rate of about 0.01 per person — which reflects the limited set of services subject to prior authorization in traditional Medicare.

"In 2023, insurers fully or partially denied 3.2 million prior authorization requests, which is a somewhat smaller share (6.4%) of all requests than in 2022 (7.4%). Though there were substantially fewer prior authorization reviews for traditional Medicare beneficiaries, a larger share was denied – 28.8% in 2023. Denial rates varied across the limited set of services subject to prior authorization in traditional Medicare.

"A small share of denied prior authorization requests was appealed in Medicare Advantage (11.7% in 2023). That represents an increase since 2019, when 7.5% of denied prior authorization requests in Medicare Advantage were appealed. A relatively small share of denied prior authorization reviews was appealed in traditional Medicare (6.4% in 2022) as well.

"Though a small share of prior authorization denials were appealed to Medicare Advantage insurers, most appeals (81.7%) were partially or fully overturned in 2023. That compares to less than one-third (29%) of appeals overturned in traditional Medicare in 2022. These requests represent medical care that was ordered by a health care provider and ultimately deemed necessary but was potentially delayed because of the additional step of appealing the initial prior authorization decision. Such delays may have negative effects on a person’s health."

https://www.kff.org/medicare/nearly-50-million-prior-authorization-requests-were-sent-to-medicare-advantage-insurers-in-2023/




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I switched from an advantage to regular Medicare about 10 years ago Walleye Oct 29 #1
Thom Hartmann predicted a year ago gab13by13 Oct 29 #7
But still, 53% of beneficaries choose Medicare Advantage because they believe it is more affordable for them. Silent Type Oct 29 #10
"... they believe it is more affordable." Grins Oct 29 #32
Like I said, you get a choice. If Medicare is better for you, take it. If MA is better, take it. But don't try to take Silent Type Oct 29 #34
I would be doing tradtional Medicare + a plan to cover my meds, but I chose Medicare Advantage for dental and vision iluvtennis Oct 29 #33
Exactly, it's a choice. MA is definitely better for some people, others not. Silent Type Oct 29 #35
My daughter is an RN case manager for home care Freddie Oct 29 #27
Not exactly true. Traditional Medicare has very detailed coverage rules that prevent some questionable claims. Silent Type Oct 29 #39
Will do. Joinfortmill Oct 29 #11
Good for you. Luckily, I learned about Medicare Supplement and ignored the "advantage" propaganda. we can do it Oct 29 #2
Are there restrictions on switching from Adv. to Medicare? nt Ilsa Oct 29 #3
Yes IbogaProject Oct 29 #5
Thank you very much. nt Ilsa Oct 29 #20
The issue is getting a Medigap supplement Abnredleg Oct 29 #6
Thank you very much. nt Ilsa Oct 29 #18
Yes, some, unless there is a s qualifying event. Joinfortmill Oct 29 #13
Thank you very much. nt Ilsa Oct 29 #16
Original Medicare? Sanity Claws Oct 29 #4
Advantage Plans include Parts A and B Abnredleg Oct 29 #8
Plain Medicare certainly covers doctors visits. gab13by13 Oct 29 #9
Medicare covers part A & B. Joinfortmill Oct 29 #14
Medicare Part A (hospital, etc.) deRien Oct 29 #24
Original Medicare is both Part A and Part B Bob_in_VA Oct 29 #31
OP--there's a lot of misinformation in this thread. marybourg Oct 29 #12
Everyrhing I posted is absolutely true to my experience Joinfortmill Oct 29 #15
I wasn't referring to your information. marybourg Oct 29 #21
SHIP? Sanity Claws Oct 29 #17
This: marybourg Oct 29 #22
Thanks Sanity Claws Oct 29 #26
Be aware, Supplemental Plans will only cover you once without a full medical history. lark Oct 29 #19
It's complicated, for sure. Joinfortmill Oct 29 #23
My plan was not being offered in 2026 so I was able to switch EverHopeful Oct 29 #25
Last year a friend who had Medicare Advantage was informed that her insurer was no longer doing business in her area. Lonestarblue Oct 29 #28
Summation: the Advantage Plan that sounds so good today can bite you in the ass tomorrow Auggie Oct 29 #29
Good advice. Joinfortmill Oct 29 #30
If you can afford it, always get real Medicare. If you MUST get Advantage due to financial reasons, make sure you Fil1957 Oct 29 #36
Your health history might prevent you getting a Medigap plan** NGeorgian Oct 29 #37
Medicare Supplemental plans can be very expensive. Sogo Oct 29 #38
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