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djean111

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15. Oh, I can certainly see that. It is clear to me that, while campaigning is, in our fucked-up
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jan 2015

system, kind of completely disassociated from what the elected does when they win, the internet has let us know in great detail what
really happens when everyone gets to Washington and The Lobbyists and The Donors who are not only Owed bur have to have their asses kissed and their desires legislated in order for the elected to be able to run in the next election. Starts the first day of a new term. And here we are, foolishly waving banners and sticking signs in our lawns and putting our teams' bumper stickers on our cars, sending in our pittances, and hanging on every word of campaign blather. Then they get to Washington and Monsanto or Jamie Dimon or their whip tells them what they are actually going to vote for, what bills are actually going to be permitted to get to the floor.

And then, of course, some horse's asses bray that why doesn't your favorite senator DO something instead of just talking about it. As if one senator or Representative can buck the whole corrupt system. As if Reid or Boehner or Pelosi or McConnell or Obama or Dimon or the Kochs or Monsanto have not already decided things.

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Because "Conservative Dem" is an oxymoron. If you know what I mean, and I think you do. n/t djean111 Jan 2015 #1
Yes I do know what you mean. Democratic principles are not conservative principles. nm rhett o rick Jan 2015 #7
I am starting to think that "principles" are very few and far between, in politics. djean111 Jan 2015 #8
I think many of us are feeling that way. CrispyQ Jan 2015 #21
With a very few exceptions, "liberal Senator" is also an oxymoron. merrily Jan 2015 #12
Oh, I can certainly see that. It is clear to me that, while campaigning is, in our fucked-up djean111 Jan 2015 #15
It's no mystery. The financial reporting standards of Congress are a joke. merrily Jan 2015 #16
I will go a bit further - it is not charmingly naive, it is stupid. n/t djean111 Jan 2015 #17
A conservative dem is a republican. Just like there is no such thing as a Liberal republican. Autumn Jan 2015 #2
Correct. That's why they come up with all these names for democrats who act like something else. TheNutcracker Jan 2015 #10
If repubs are infiltrating and running as ConservaDems aspirant Jan 2015 #3
Because the two Parties are very different. Our tent is very big and we let just about rhett o rick Jan 2015 #4
I often wondered why we don't do that. But actual Dems would find it very hard to pretend sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #5
I Wish I Knew colsohlibgal Jan 2015 #6
They SHOULD ignore this thread. This forum is supposed to be a "safe haven" for DU's left. merrily Jan 2015 #13
There are no conservative Democrats - just Republicans gaming weak Democrats... whereisjustice Jan 2015 #9
I don't think Dem Senators get gamed by Republicans. merrily Jan 2015 #14
yes, tried to compress too much of an analysis in a title block... whereisjustice Jan 2015 #18
Yep. I don't think any pol cares how hard you feel you have to pin your nose in the voting booth, as merrily Jan 2015 #19
I don't believe that hearing from constituents changes the vote of a Senator. merrily Jan 2015 #11
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #20
Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #22
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