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TomCADem

(17,832 posts)
8. 'The Worst Possible Scenario': Never Trumpers Wonder What to Do About Bernie
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 07:19 PM
Apr 2020

While BS supporters like to demand that we suck up to them to convince them to vote Biden in November, what is ignored is how that what you lose in the small number of BS supporters who might vote for Trump or Green Party, you gain in independents and Never Trump Republicans who would like a President who not as overtly corrupt as Trump. Think of David Brooks, George Will, etc., who hate Donald Trump and have renounced the Republican party.

This is not about ideology. If we had Democratic equivalent of Trump who was a racist that scapegoated immigrants, attacked a free media, was narcissistic, who engaged in nepotism and diverted government and campaign resources for his own personal benefit, who sucked up to authoritarian governments, who turned his back on allies, and who was not prepared for a crisis, then I would consider voting for a somewhat mainstream Republican like Jack Kemp, Bob Dole, etc., just to protect our Democracy. Of course, most such Republicans, have long since been kicked out.

I think that Biden would be able to capture the vote of folks who may not agree with Democratic platform, but love their country and want to return to rule of law. Of course, they might get turned off by another person who fashions themself as an outsider running against the "establishment" and promising revolution and to drain the swamp, which often just leads to dictatorship and corruption.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/03/never-trump-maybe-bernie-118981

It’s been a rough four years for Never Trumpers, the cadre of Republican and former-Republican commentators, strategists and veterans of the conservative movement who tried and failed to thwart the president’s rise to power in 2016.

First, after failing to beat Donald Trump in the primaries and the convention, they cast about for a third-party candidate to represent their tribe, backing the longshot bid of independent Evan McMullin—or writing in a candidate like Mitt Romney or, for some, actually voting for Hillary Clinton. Then, once President Trump assumed office, they pinned their hopes on the moderating, mainstreaming effect of the Republican Senate. They rooted for the administration’s “adults in the room.” When all that failed, some began to come to grips with the idea that they’d just have to vote for whomever the Democratic Party nominated for president in 2020. Surely that person couldn’t be worse for America than Trump, right?

Now, with the Democrats quite possibly heading toward nominating an avowed socialist for president, horrified Never Trumpers are facing yet another crisis beyond their imaginings.

This past weekend, they faced it together, assembling Saturday at the National Press Club for the first-ever “Summit on Principled Conservatism.” The forum’s speakers included Never Trump figures Bill Kristol, Mona Charen, Rick Wilson, Mindy Finn, Amanda Carpenter, Tara Setmayer, Tim Miller, David Frum and Tom Nichols. Not long ago, this group would have met at the weekend’s Conservative Political Action Conference, a gathering of thousands of fervent Republicans that ended Saturday in nearby National Harbor, Maryland. These days, however, CPAC has become a showcase for the Trumpist wing of the party—as Trump counselor Kellyanne Conway put it a few years back, CPAC has become TPAC.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Indeed he can and he will! Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #1
Well said, Yavin.. Thank YOu! Cha Apr 2020 #2
Honest to god with everything going on this shouldn't even be an issue anymore. Afromania Apr 2020 #3
+1 betsuni Apr 2020 #17
He will win and the left will have less influence...brought it on themselves. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #4
100% of Bernie supporters Mr.Bill Apr 2020 #5
Sanders Exemplifies, Sir, A Peculiar Sort Of Identity Politics The Magistrate Apr 2020 #6
Excellent post, sir. For evidence to support your thesis... Yavin4 Apr 2020 #9
Politics As Indie Music, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #10
Biden will 100% win. BlueLucy Apr 2020 #7
'The Worst Possible Scenario': Never Trumpers Wonder What to Do About Bernie TomCADem Apr 2020 #8
I'm as far left that you can go and for I was for Biden right from the start. Butterflylady Apr 2020 #11
At this point in the primary Sanders is nothing. William769 Apr 2020 #12
Relax, the vast majority of us are enthusiasticly voting blue no matter who. Magoo48 Apr 2020 #13
K&R onetexan Apr 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #15
Of course he can. Every non-incumbent president in history has probably won without getting... thesquanderer Apr 2020 #16
This is why Biden should not given in to Bernie's extortionist demands la-trucker Apr 2020 #18
The sanders supporters who voted for trump in 2016 are mainly racists who hated Obama Gothmog Apr 2020 #19
7% of Sanders supporters say they'd vote for Trump against Biden Gothmog Apr 2020 #20
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