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Thunderbeast

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106. I would rather focus on fixing the broken election process.

Thu Apr 17, 2025, 11:08 PM

Apr 17

Constitutional ammendment for direct election of the President.

Independent re-districting within states for congressional and state legislative races. District maps should follow the principle that outcomes of elections roughly map to the sentiments expressed in statewide contests. If a party wins 60% in a governors race, then districts should be drawn with a probable outcome that reflects a similar split of representative seats.

Let's fix democracy instead of building guillotines in the town square!

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Would you support a denazification type program if we return to power? [View all] Kaleva Apr 17 OP

I'd rather see a cult intervention Walleye Apr 17 #1

Yes definitely RJ-MacReady Apr 17 #2

Maybe a de-Trumpification. All the toadies, sycophants, and true believers surfered Apr 17 #3

Only after a series Nuremberg style trials whereby these criminals ... Tarzanrock Apr 17 #4

Give the convicted a choice... The Madcap Apr 17 #55

I'd support an AG who actually pursues cases against the leaders who committed crimes against the Constitution. Scrivener7 Apr 17 #5

This question is intended for folks who think Trump is like Hitler Kaleva Apr 17 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author EnergizedLib Apr 17 #30

Yes, but it would break my heart. Biophilic Apr 17 #7

It should have been done after the Civil War also JI7 Apr 17 #8

So to be clear, 80% of respondents favor eliminating, at a minimum, the First and Fourth Amendments? tritsofme Apr 17 #9

People supporting putting political opponents in concentration camps. Wild, isn't it? Hellbound Hellhound Apr 17 #11

Post removed Post removed Apr 17 #26

They need to suffer? The Revolution Apr 18 #118

No JustAnotherGen Apr 18 #173

Communist Underground Polybius Apr 17 #47

Become? How can you know they've changed? Bonx Apr 17 #83

Yikes indeed The Revolution Apr 18 #116

Blood-thirst and vengeance Seeking Serenity Apr 18 #147

I don't think that's true Bettie Apr 18 #138

What's not true? Have you not read the OP? tritsofme Apr 18 #139

I voted yes because I believe Bettie Apr 18 #143

The scary thing is, it doesn't appear to be hyperbole for a lot of these folks. tritsofme Apr 18 #144

I don't want them to believe that any of this Bettie Apr 18 #145

Well, as long as WE'RE in control of the police state, amirite? Seeking Serenity Apr 18 #149

SS are patroling our streets, People! Bluethroughu Apr 18 #176

So why are you against the Constitution? Voting "yes" in this poll means you support eliminating the First and Fourth tritsofme Apr 18 #177

I understand...not all trumpers just the ones who have committed crimes Bluethroughu Apr 18 #178

How does educating U.S. Citizens about the Evils of Naziism violate the First and Fourth Amendments? Gore1FL Apr 18 #155

Yea gee, what's wrong with forcibly detaining people who have committed no crimes? tritsofme Apr 18 #157

Who says that is necessary? Gore1FL Apr 18 #167

Uh... the OP does. tritsofme Apr 18 #168

Point. I missed the details. nt Gore1FL Apr 18 #169

Deprogramming of the hate belief system would not be in violation of the first amendment. Clouds Passing Sunday #186

There needs to be a Nuremburg style trial. Nt avebury Apr 18 #171

Post removed Post removed Apr 17 #10

Is this supposed to be some sort of satire? tritsofme Apr 17 #19

This country belongs to BIPOC Comrade Citizen Apr 17 #21

Yikes, disturbing. So everyone that doesn't meet your criteria is just stripped of citizenship and stateless? tritsofme Apr 17 #22

Permanent residents with free movement across the border Comrade Citizen Apr 17 #24

Agreed, there is definitely no need to explain such a silly fantasy any further, lol tritsofme Apr 17 #25

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I can make my own, but thanks. tritsofme Apr 17 #32

Interesting that everyone in your signature is white Polybius Apr 17 #49

Post removed Post removed Apr 17 #60

Al Green is a tiny pic and couldn't even see it was him Polybius Apr 17 #69

I'm used to it Comrade Citizen Apr 17 #71

Maybe you should wonder why instead of blaming others n/t Polybius Apr 17 #100

So is it "mansplaining" whenever someone male replies to you? Crunchy Frog Apr 17 #95

Well, some of them could be women, for all she knows iemanja Apr 18 #114

Many people put it in their profiles. Crunchy Frog Apr 18 #117

Nah, that's a bit too much for me. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 17 #12

Hasn't MAGA movement gone past free speech into de-facto policy? Thx in advance uponit7771 Apr 18 #134

Yes but that doesn't mean WE have to do that. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 18 #151

How do we protect ourselves from people who, through policy, don't want... uponit7771 Apr 18 #161

It could. It may have already happened. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 18 #165

Is that a DEnazification program? sarisataka Apr 17 #13

Hopefully this ForgedCrank Apr 17 #14

Good lawd! demmiblue Apr 17 #15

Restart reconstruction LS0999 Apr 17 #16

Hell no! William769 Apr 17 #17

Absolutely you can participate in democratic governance JCMach1 Apr 17 #18

Right right...democracy, but only if you agree with me! tritsofme Apr 17 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author EnergizedLib Apr 17 #27

Why not embrace a dictatorship as long you like the dictator? That is really your question? tritsofme Apr 17 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author EnergizedLib Apr 17 #33

Well that is extremely disturbing. At least you are honest about it. tritsofme Apr 17 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author EnergizedLib Apr 17 #37

It is the DU 'Team Blue Benevolent Dictator' fantasy and it is disturbing. nt kelly1mm Apr 17 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author EnergizedLib Apr 17 #23

I think there is a Constutionally compliant middle ground to be had here. Pacifist Patriot Apr 17 #28

FFS! Not this sh!t again! A sizable minority (at least I HOPE it is a minority) here on DU have 'Team Blue kelly1mm Apr 17 #34

It might be a majority of this poll is accurate Kaleva Apr 17 #38

I HOPE it is selection bias. Hell, I am only here on this thread to watch the car wreck ..... nt kelly1mm Apr 17 #39

Team Rubberneck reporting for duty n/t Sympthsical Apr 17 #66

It's a hoot, ain't it? Fla_Democrat Apr 17 #92

If team blue doesn't kill or disappear people, I'm in. harumph Apr 17 #41

Many are quite supportive of a strong man dictator in charge... as long as he/she favors your side WarGamer Apr 17 #44

Yes Kaleva Apr 17 #67

I'd support, nay, insist upon, aggressive enforcement of existing laws including RockRaven Apr 17 #40

No, not American citizens, BUT bluestarone Apr 17 #42

So defeat Trumpism by becoming literal fascists? WarGamer Apr 17 #43

I wish I could say I'm surprised at the responses, but I'm not. onenote Apr 17 #48

It's crazy Polybius Apr 17 #52

"the Republican Party would be banned" Polybius Apr 17 #45

Then the court gets thrown into the re education camps too MichMan Apr 17 #112

"Trump supporters" Polybius Apr 17 #46

Given that we don't know who voted for who, ... Kaleva Apr 17 #50

I guess you won't complain if Trump does that to us now Polybius Apr 17 #51

Can you quote where I said I support doing such a thing? Kaleva Apr 17 #53

Gotcha Polybius Apr 17 #68

No problem! Kaleva Apr 17 #73

For those who think we should not do anything Bettie Apr 17 #54

Can't we simply... ultralite001 Apr 17 #56

Magas might be too far gone. Omnipresent Apr 17 #57

A mass exorcism. maveric Apr 17 #58

Trump and others are is commiting crimes against humanity. He should face a Nuremberg Demsrule86 Apr 17 #59

That is a disturbing amount of support for "re-education" Sympthsical Apr 17 #61

Several hundred thousand Germans were detained in camps after the war Kaleva Apr 17 #63

No, I know Sympthsical Apr 17 #64

But we can't just say "oh well, it's done now"... Bettie Apr 17 #108

Who recommended any such thing? Sympthsical Apr 18 #122

Last time it happened (not to the degree it is now) we Bettie Apr 18 #137

We need a rewriting of american govt and both world and us history Karadeniz Apr 17 #62

I don't think the erosion of our federal government stillcool Apr 17 #65

One of the most fascinating interviews I've ever read Torchlight Apr 17 #70

Yes Kaleva Apr 17 #99

What would be the mechanism for implementing any of those things? Patton French Apr 17 #72

Extreme violence is what I would assume. Llewlladdwr Apr 17 #76

It'd be far less then half the country. Kaleva Apr 17 #81

It would be more than half the country Polybius Apr 17 #103

This.....plus they would take up arms....the same as I if I thought this was the plan for me. Melon Apr 18 #132

With no doubt Lurker Deluxe Apr 18 #170

I've been calling it de-Trumpification... jmowreader Apr 17 #74

I support the prosecution of people who have broken the law. BannonsLiver Apr 17 #75

I can agree with that Polybius Apr 17 #104

Would it be possible to get rid of the radio stations and programs. Mystery sage Apr 17 #77

Know who else refers to his military action as "denazification?" Dreamer Tatum Apr 17 #78

Trump's new buddy? Kaleva Apr 17 #80

You're the one throwing Putin's term around. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 17 #82

The term is far older then Putin Kaleva Apr 17 #84

Yet you'd do what he says he's doing. How very interesting. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 17 #85

Can you quote where I said I'm in favor of doing such a thing? Kaleva Apr 17 #86

Nice deflection. Very Soviet. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 17 #87

Can you at least provide la link to comments you made to those who said they are in favor? Kaleva Apr 17 #88

Yes, yes you're swimming in plausible deniability.... TheProle Apr 17 #94

I took those examples right from history Kaleva Apr 17 #97

I would if it includes Nuremberg-style trials and accountability. Garland types need not apply for the prosecution. Efilroft Sul Apr 17 #79

If handled poorly, something like that would backfire spectacularly. Crunchy Frog Apr 17 #89

We will need a Truth & Reconciliation process once this mess is over. nt Blasphemer Apr 17 #90

MAGAts would then call us the fascists. It's always projection with them... AntiFascist Apr 17 #91

Currently 63%.... Fla_Democrat Apr 17 #93

If laws were broken DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 17 #96

It's an interesting dilemma Kaleva Apr 17 #98

Yes Traildogbob Apr 17 #101

Lock them up and RELOCK them up. ALL of them. NO pardons. Period. ZDU Apr 17 #102

What jail holds nearly 80 million people? Polybius Apr 17 #105

Build arenas, import lions ZDU Apr 17 #107

I would rather focus on fixing the broken election process. Thunderbeast Apr 17 #106

No. H2O Man Apr 17 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author live love laugh Apr 17 #110

Doesn't seem prudent DemocratSinceBirth Apr 17 #111

I don't like your authoritarian state anymore than theirs iemanja Apr 17 #113

Where did I say I want this? Kaleva Apr 18 #120

How could you even dream up such a scenario? iemanja Apr 18 #121

Do you agree that many here believe Trump and his supporters are Nazis? Kaleva Apr 18 #123

No, Trump has not killed 6 million people iemanja Apr 18 #125

How does my response confirm your first post? Kaleva Apr 18 #126

Bye-bye. (nt) Paladin Apr 18 #140

Authoritarians of any political stripe are EllieBC Apr 18 #115

Prosecution of crimes, yes! State-sanctioned deprogramming, no way. Duncan Grant Apr 18 #119

Depends on what the criminal statutes define as being a crime per congress MichMan Apr 18 #131

I would support some of this. and would like to see him and others charged with the covid murders too Meowmee Apr 18 #124

He is not immortal. He will either pass away or his party will implode when he's not on the ballot in 2028. LonePirate Apr 18 #127

A post Trump world will be interesting Kaleva Apr 18 #128

Wow... LPBBEAR Apr 18 #129

I would not support "tribunals", but the normal civil court process, yes--- Jack Valentino Apr 18 #130

Part 1. Eliminating Fox News Dan Apr 18 #133

Yea! Fuck the First Amendment? Right? tritsofme Apr 18 #141

America JustAnotherGen Apr 18 #135

Exactly LPBBEAR Apr 18 #136

What you ate advocating Mz Pip Apr 18 #142

What am I advocating? Kaleva Apr 18 #148

This is actually "Nazification" of course gulliver Apr 18 #146

Considering the number of members who believe Trump is like Hitler Kaleva Apr 18 #154

It's a lazy level of analogy. gulliver Apr 18 #156

So that's what you think of the people who voted "Yes"? Kaleva Apr 18 #158

Venting - I Agree Lokee11 Apr 18 #163

You forgot the suspension of the prohibition against ex post facto laws Seeking Serenity Apr 18 #150

Is that what you are saying to the DUers who voted in favor? Kaleva Apr 18 #153

What a strange question? tritsofme Apr 18 #166

I guess so. Based on your fantasy-world OP scenario, Seeking Serenity Apr 18 #174

Pretty sure this plan isn't consistent with the Constitution Raven123 Apr 18 #152

The worst offenders or those that refuse reeducation can be sent to El Salvador. louis-t Apr 18 #159

We need to deFoxify the United States. Initech Apr 18 #160

Denazification In Germany after WWII UpInArms Apr 18 #162

Yes, if it's determined any broke laws. Oneironaut Apr 18 #164

No. No way. OnionPatch Apr 18 #172

This thread is incredibly informative. WarGamer Apr 18 #175

I'm not surprised in one way but am surprised in another Kaleva Apr 19 #180

it's a revenge sentiment Skittles Sunday #182

I voted no Skittles Sunday #181

As long as we're not trading MurrayDelph Apr 19 #179

What?? B.See Sunday #183

They enacted a number of laws after the war in an effort to subdue nazism Kaleva Sunday #185

exactly. B.See Sunday #187

Well, one surefire way to ensure we keep losing elections and maintain embarrassing poll numbers is... jcmaine72 Sunday #184

No Cirsium Sunday #188

"Why would anyone mock those who are seeing parallels between this regime and murderous regimes from the past?" jcmaine72 Sunday #189

Nice try Cirsium Sunday #191

Well, this poll and ensuing thread/responses went about as expected. n/t flvegan Sunday #190