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48. "Like an old football star in high school, decades later still living in the past"

Reply to IrishBubbaLiberal (Reply #35)

Fri Apr 18, 2025, 09:55 PM

Apr 18

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James Carville's "advice" helped give us Trump 2.0 [View all] Jack Valentino Apr 18 OP

Jimmy had the great luck to sign on with the most charismatic candidate since JFK... regnaD kciN Apr 18 #1

and I don't recall him giving Kamala any advice Jack Valentino Apr 18 #2

Does anyone listen to Carville anymore?? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 18 #27

NOBODY should be listening to him, anymore. Paladin Apr 18 #29

I second that... it's time for a new generation of Democrats to take over!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 18 #38

He stole my SCROTUS description and used it the next day methinks. GreenWave Apr 18 #30

Rightwing media does, apparently. FoxNewsSucks Apr 19 #81

I dunno. Carville nor anyone else gave that disastrous performance at the debate. brush Apr 18 #3

Why not? He already had the nomination sown up. People's memories are short--- Jack Valentino Apr 18 #4

Your memory must be short too. He was being blasted daily by... brush Apr 18 #5

Post removed Post removed Apr 18 #15

I don't think it was just his money, FoxNewsSucks Apr 19 #82

Absolutely. I still don't believe trump won all swing states legitimately. brush Apr 19 #84

Joe needed to BOOM his voice about Trump outrages. GreenWave Apr 18 #31

It was Biden's debate performance, even people on here JI7 Apr 18 #6

And I don't have much use for them either--- Jack Valentino Apr 18 #7

Here, I blame Biden's campaign team karynnj Apr 18 #23

Agreed, under those circumstances they should have canceled and Jack Valentino Apr 19 #56

I had consistency said this about debates kansasobama Apr 18 #32

Rather agree with this, also--- Trump doesn't "debate", he just screams falsehoods Jack Valentino Apr 19 #57

I agree on Trump, but not on Bush in 2004 karynnj Apr 19 #73

Oh please. valleyrogue Apr 18 #43

BS and you know it. William769 Apr 18 #8

The rest of them can share the responsibility for it. Jack Valentino Apr 18 #9

I've already put it someplace else. William769 Apr 18 #10

Oh, WONDERFUL! Jack Valentino Apr 18 #11

What IS "BS" is the idea taken up by so many in our party last year, Jack Valentino Apr 18 #12

Vice President Biden markodochartaigh Apr 18 #13

"I might have been sometimes 'sleepy' --- Jack Valentino Apr 19 #55

Regardless of what we think "woulda" or "coulda" happened in '24 if things were done differently... Mister Ed Apr 18 #14

I merely found him worthy enough to ask that he "shut the fuck up" :) Jack Valentino Apr 19 #61

Aye. Please understand that my reply was not a criticism of your OP... Mister Ed Apr 19 #72

Biden was the first incumbent where a strong majority of the voters said that he was not capable of performing everyonematters Apr 18 #16

All the people that thought they knew better Johonny Apr 18 #17

Democrats would have lost the Wisconsin, Michigan and Nevada senate races if Biden remained in the race. Self Esteem Apr 18 #19

"Prophet, say you?" Jack Valentino Apr 19 #60

It doesn't take a prophet to read the polling... Self Esteem Apr 19 #75

I have to disagree with the Biden debate not being worse that Bush or Obama EdmondDantes_ Apr 18 #26

Why do Dems keep debating kansasobama Apr 18 #33

Are you suggesting Biden would have won? Self Esteem Apr 18 #18

Maybe... maybe not. But James Carville's advice didn't give us the White House, Jack Valentino Apr 19 #71

No maybe. He was not going to win. Self Esteem Apr 19 #74

So true karynnj Apr 18 #20

Not a fan of Carville but I strongly disagree that Biden would have faired better. tman Apr 18 #21

We lost because 3-6m Dem voters stayed home krawhitham Apr 18 #42

Nah. Self Esteem Apr 18 #45

You make a good point, many Dems just didn't show up to vote on November 5th, so Shitler won. red dog 1 Apr 18 #47

Whereas I'm in agreement with much of your post, PCIntern Apr 18 #22

I disagree. I think AOC could be "Obama 2.0"---- Jack Valentino Apr 19 #58

Biden at the top of the ticket could have potentially cost us Senate races in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona tritsofme Apr 18 #24

That is merely a supposition without any support--- and all those "folks" who Jack Valentino Apr 19 #62

Joe Biden would have lost. In It to Win It Apr 18 #25

Quite possibly---- but failing to renominate your incumbent President has Jack Valentino Apr 19 #63

The past doesn't guarantee it will be repeated in the future In It to Win It Apr 19 #65

WRONG. For the past 100 years, it DOES guarantee that you will LOSE Jack Valentino Apr 19 #67

Ok. I respectfully disagree. In It to Win It Apr 19 #68

Show me a party that won the presidential general election after Jack Valentino Apr 19 #69

No. I'm good. You've made your point. I've made mine. In It to Win It Apr 19 #70

I respect and appreciate history, BUT rehashing Biden yes Biden no is a waste. NoMoreRepugs Apr 18 #28

He actually called on Harris to endorse a primary. gulliver Apr 18 #34

James Carville is LONG past his prime, not worth listening to at all IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 18 #35

"Like an old football star in high school, decades later still living in the past" red dog 1 Apr 18 #48

I wish I was having some Golden Boy pizza right now IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 18 #50

They both seem to have their hand stuck down their pants.... Jack Valentino Apr 19 #64

We desperately needed Joe Biden in 2020--a steady hand at the wheel to guide... Ol Janx Spirit Apr 18 #36

Fighting back Scubamatt Apr 18 #37

You had a rec from me until AOC came up RandomNumbers Apr 18 #39

2008, 2012, and 2020---- according to the Republicans--- Jack Valentino Apr 19 #66

I blame the corporate media SocialDemocrat61 Apr 18 #40

I agree. red dog 1 Apr 18 #49

Uh oh....Carville said something Mountainguy Apr 18 #41

David Gergen played this role far better Mike 03 Apr 18 #44

Skeletor needs to STFU and go away. Imo, of course. demmiblue Apr 18 #46

Him, Carville, & Axelrod are my last nerve UTUSN Apr 18 #51

I agree with you Keepthesoulalive Apr 18 #52

Oh snap ILikePie92 Apr 18 #53

Mr. Matalin is well past his expiration date. PurgedVoter Apr 18 #54

Biden was never going to win iemanja Apr 19 #59

Should have dropped out after the mid-term. n/t thought crime Apr 19 #83

And he did not win the election, something happened. I'm not sure what but there's no way with. Eliot Rosewater Apr 19 #76

200 bomb threats called in on election day way more than ever Eliot Rosewater Apr 19 #78

Blaming Carville for our loss is not legitimate. IMO, the blame for our lose was because walkingman Apr 19 #77

He should shut Faux pas Apr 19 #79

Look who he's married to. samplegirl Apr 19 #80