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Bernardo de La Paz

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Thu Apr 24, 2025, 11:24 PM Apr 2025

Supply shortage wave will roll from LA/SFO starting about May 25, reaching NYC about June 5. [View all]

Last edited Fri Apr 25, 2025, 12:11 AM - Edit history (2)

April 2: "Liberation Day"
April 2 night: Libation Night
April 3: Liquidation Day
April 9: Tariffs vs China imposed, quickly ratched up to 145%

Everything in transit is theoretically exempt but might get slowed down. Businesses did what they could to expedite in advance but it was limited.

Cargo Bookings for May are down 40% vs May 2024. Basically that is for orders that had to be placed after April 9. Takes about 45 days for order to go Chinese factory to dock to ship to ocean to LA to sit on dock. 55 days to get to NYC by ocean or add 10 days from LA to NYC by truck including lading and off lading.

April 10 + 45 days --> May 25.
April 10 + 55 days --> June 5

Timing of course is approximate, but expect there to be a period of about two weeks to go from sort of normal to noticeable spaces on shelves and another two weeks for it to become undeniable and much remarked on.

mahatmakanejeeves https://www.democraticunderground.com/1116100359
applegrove https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220265346

Paul Krugman cargo bookings graph reposted in bluesky:

The crash in container ships arriving at the Port of Los Angeles (busiest in US) depicted in this graph should hit in a few weeks, which means lost business for truckers and probably some empty shelves in stores.

Unless something big changes, the problems should become more apparent in the summer.

Nicholas Grossman (@nicholasgrossman.bsky.social) 2025-04-24T14:59:13.804Z



The Outbound Tender Volume Index (OTVI) is an index of electronically tendered freight volumes on a given day.

A tender is a load offer from a shipper to a trucking company that is sent electronically. These are actual loads and are transmitted a few days before they are scheduled to be picked up. This is the most current and reliable indicator of market demand.

The white line is 2025 and has begun an ominous little dip:

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Study the WW2 rationing of 1942-1945, folks. roamer65 Apr 2025 #1
Soup kitchens too. Re-use, repair, repurpose, do more with less. Used cars rise in relative value Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #7
Car parts price snd availability might be affected with used cars, too. Nixie Apr 2025 #32
I really need to sell my car CountAllVotes Apr 2025 #34
Consider sites like CarMax or Carvana MissB Apr 2025 #40
there is a lien on the car CountAllVotes Apr 2025 #43
It's going to be sooner than that. James48 Apr 2025 #2
You may be right. I thought 45 + 10 seemed a bit extended. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #8
At this point there has been enough coverage of potential shortages MissB Apr 2025 #3
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As if you have to ask. GP6971 Apr 2025 #11
Library books. William769 Apr 2025 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2025 #14
Um ... no. What are you saying? What does "no cap" mean? Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #15
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"No cap" is Gen Z for "for real" or "no lie" Sympthsical Apr 2025 #20
Thanks. Though with that poster, that meaning seems very ironic. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #36
Probably toilet paper MissB Apr 2025 #13
Library cards and books. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #16
Scary Demovictory9 Apr 2025 #4
And The Market Gurus and M$M modrepub Apr 2025 #5
This is a big point. These are not normal times, yet so many are sleepwalking. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Bookreadingliberal53 Apr 2025 #33
Looks like I picked a good time to go back. DFW Apr 2025 #6
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And you're so transparent. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #19
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It's highly unusual to see a anti-vax conservative girl on a progressive message board. William769 Apr 2025 #22
I'd bet money it's under discussion at MIRT. NNadir Apr 2025 #25
Way ahead of you on that. William769 Apr 2025 #26
(Wink, wink) MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #28
It's been some time since I have had the time to volunteer for MIRT, so I forgot about the library thing. NNadir Apr 2025 #38
Hey!!!! You forgot to add "Again"!,, GP6971 Apr 2025 #27
You are right! Again & again & again & again... William769 Apr 2025 #29
Not so unusual. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #23
LOL! CoopersDad Apr 2025 #24
Trust me she's never left. William769 Apr 2025 #30
If I may, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2025 #31
I'd go with Tombstone William769 Apr 2025 #35
Today we're featuring the Manager's Special...I'll check GP6971 Apr 2025 #37
Nah. Lots of people you don't expect show up here on DU. MineralMan Apr 2025 #41
No, just overworked! DFW Apr 2025 #39
Some people don't live in the United States. I know that's very hard for magas to understand. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #42
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