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pinkstarburst

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32. I want to see how BOTH perform in the primaries
Mon Jun 9, 2025, 01:47 PM
Jun 9

I think there's the tendency to get overly focused on so-and-so, who could guarantee us this swing state for sure, or so-and-so could bring voters of this age, or whatever.

But we need to actually see how that candidate performs when they are running on their own in the primaries.

On paper, Kamala Harris is pretty much THE perfect candidate. But for whatever reason, democratic voters never warmed up to her in the 2020 primaries and we had low democratic turnout in 2024 compared to how dems turned out for Biden in 2020 (and we all know how that election turned out.)

When Hillary was looking to choose her VP, there was a lot of buzz around Julian Castro, saying he was young and Hispanic and could gain us huge turnout with young people and Hispanic voters. Clinton ultimately went with another choice. But then when Castro ran in the 2020 primaries, we observed that he couldn't even get to half a percentage point of support from voters. Being young and Hispanic himself did not automatically mean he was going to be a huge draw on the ticket for those demographics, or bring in votes.

So I realize that whoever wins in the primaries is the candidate and they're going to choose who they want. But choosing a running mate needs to be more than just about what state someone is from, or whether they're in the right age group or female or whatever. We could be soooo excited that Bob is going to get us Michigan because he's from Michigan, but if Bob can't even get 0.5% of the vote in the primary, Bob doesn't have the charisma or draw with voters on a national stage to add anything.

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Not bad at first glance EYESORE 9001 Jun 9 #1
I read Betty Crocker at first glance! Iris Jun 9 #47
My opinion also. Rep. Crockett, AOC and Rep. Raskin probably need to get to the Senate IMO first... brush Jun 9 #53
Beshear maybe. Crockett no. I absolutely love her, but it doesn't feel like the right time. Vinca Jun 9 #2
I love her but it is a no from me. We need a seasoned person. She is great but it is a no for me. Trueblue1968 Jun 9 #39
I think Harris would have made an exceptional POTUS. It's a shame so many American voters are idiots. Vinca Jun 9 #40
Kentuckian here. We love Andy Beshear! I don't sense that he's a great national figure, personality-wise, but we'll see. Music Man Jun 9 #3
Agree 100% calguy Jun 9 #7
How is a 2-term governor...the most popular Democratic governor in the nation not ready Wanderlust988 Jun 9 #10
His resume get the red out Jun 9 #12
Yes, the same as Bill Clinton. It's ludicrous for someone to say he's not ready to be president. Wanderlust988 Jun 9 #29
It's not lucicrous at all to say he's not ready for the national stage calguy Jun 9 #51
Two term Governor and 1term Attorney General bottomofthehill Jun 9 #13
Don't get me wrong: EXCELLENT governor, would be an outstanding president. Music Man Jun 9 #15
We'll have to see how ALL candidates handle a primary. Pritzer and Newsom haven't had a primary either. Wanderlust988 Jun 9 #30
Correct. This is really all just a fun exercise pinkstarburst Jun 9 #42
If he's so popular nationwide calguy Jun 9 #24
He preaches against Trump everyday, but he doesn't have Chicago or LA media markets to help Wanderlust988 Jun 9 #28
That's exactly my point calguy Jun 9 #49
As Californian, Newsom, at times, has leaned too far to the demosincebirth Jun 9 #33
Yes he has calguy Jun 9 #50
He has a friendly demeanor. Nonnia Bisnez Jun 9 #14
He has a friendly demeanor but doesn't come across as mean-spirited Polybius Jun 9 #46
Actually Jasmine is serving her second term. MagickMuffin Jun 9 #34
I stand corrected. Thanks! Music Man Jun 9 #37
Crockett should be aiming for house leadership IMO Fiendish Thingy Jun 9 #4
completely agree... Javaman Jun 9 #5
You don't think Nonnia Bisnez Jun 9 #16
I think she would be hard pressed to say no, but I think her talents would be much better utilized Javaman Jun 9 #19
Yes but Nonnia Bisnez Jun 9 #22
Rep. Crockett is running for the Oversight Committee Chair MagickMuffin Jun 9 #35
Beshear wouldn't even win Kentucky and Crocket would make sure we lose 46 states Prairie Gates Jun 9 #6
Actually, I think he could win Kentucky. He's that popular here. I think Kentucky would be a battleground state. Wanderlust988 Jun 9 #8
Too early. kentuck Jun 9 #9
I love them both! get the red out Jun 9 #11
As a Cincinnatian, I do too. Nonnia Bisnez Jun 9 #18
There are so many great Democrats - but my preference is a robust primary and I make my decision on the policies Nanjeanne Jun 9 #17
You are quite right. At this early stage, this exercise is more of a party game than a serious discussion. Hekate Jun 9 #20
It's not too early Nonnia Bisnez Jun 9 #21
It's too early to be this specific. maxsolomon Jun 9 #23
Glad to be here. Nonnia Bisnez Jun 9 #25
Tough to read the tea leaves this far out Torchlight Jun 9 #26
Crocket is POTUS material and at the right age, but I would much rather have her as Speaker of the House, ... marble falls Jun 9 #27
I'd love for her to run for Cornyn seat and win MagickMuffin Jun 9 #36
Cornyn might be tougher to beat than Paxton, who people loathe or love. Cornyn appeals to 'real' Republicans ... marble falls Jun 9 #38
She'd lose by 20 points to either one of them Polybius Jun 9 #44
Sez you. marble falls Jun 9 #45
With my dire warnings and predictions from last year, I am well qualified to speak on this Polybius Jun 9 #48
She couldn't win a statewide race in Texas to become a Senator Polybius Jun 9 #43
We don't need another male president Pris Jun 9 #31
I want to see how BOTH perform in the primaries pinkstarburst Jun 9 #32
Absolutely not Crockett Polybius Jun 9 #41
Way too early for this JustAnotherGen Jun 9 #52
I was thinking more along the lines of Alliepoo Jun 9 #54
Absolute dream ticket Nonnia Bisnez Jun 9 #55
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