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Sympthsical

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15. These conspiracies prey on people's mathematical illiteracy

Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:48 AM

Jul 2

And it's honestly kind of an indictment of our education system that people look at this hilarious eleventy bajillion kadrillion! claim, and common sense doesn't knock it down out of hand. Just a freshman level course in statistics would put these conspiracy theorists to bed after the most cursory of glances.

I already sourced the Michigan numbers in another thread (using their board of elections and actual journalists).

I know I'm bumping up against the wall of faith rather than reason in trying to combat this stuff, but it really is a shame. That this kind of wild material gets posted here. It brings us down to the 2020 deniers level. It alienates people. It feeds fuel to "both sides" when we are at a moment in democracy where the sides could not be more starkly different.

I miss reality-based.

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She Won: July 2 Virtual Event. 4 pm EDT today. Pass it on and around this not conspiracy stuff [View all] Botany Jul 2 OP

A little conspiracy. I would love if we audited the results oldmanlynn Jul 2 #1

Best not to enter midterms running on the delusion we won. Silent Type Jul 2 #2

It's not a delusion IMO. It's a realization of the fact that rethugs, lie, cheat, steal, bribe and suppress votes... brush Jul 2 #6

I guess Biden, Harris, other Dem officials all know we won, they just aren't saying anything. And no legitimate Silent Type Jul 2 #8

There's nothing to be done about it now, water under the bridge, but trump even admited it was rigged. brush Jul 2 #11

He didn't admit that. He was running his mouth enjoying knee jerk reactions. We lost. Silent Type Jul 2 #16

Who thnks we won? Musk money won. Let's not be naive. brush Jul 2 #19

I wish the CTs we were robbed were just naive. Much worse than that, bordering on lies, misinformation, and worse. Silent Type Jul 2 #31

Translate, please. brush Jul 2 #40

We weren't robbed, we lost. Is that simple enough? We need to accept we lost and run accordingly in midterms. Silent Type Jul 2 #42

Your opinion. Many do not think trump won all swing states legitimately. brush Jul 2 #43

Trump lies EdmondDantes_ Jul 2 #21

If they stole the presidential election, what makes you think the midterms will be fair? milestogo Jul 2 #24

If they did, yeah. But they didn't steal election, we lost big time. Silent Type Jul 2 #30

it would be nice if we had at least some full state audits oldmanlynn Jul 2 #3

This sounds like nonsense, and, blogs are always perfect mediums for bullshit. Oneironaut Jul 2 #4

Of course Harris won, as did Hillary. I never believed trump won every swing state. brush Jul 2 #5

Trump knew the fix was in. Botany Jul 2 #7

They definitely stole it. brush Jul 2 #9

As I stated in an earlier thread . . . peggysue2 Jul 2 #28

Don't forget the rally where he played music and didn't deliver his usual anti-speeches. pandr32 Jul 2 #35

If it's all so obvious that she won, why has Harris never spoken up? tritsofme Jul 2 #10

Don't you get it, they paid her to be quiet or some similar BS. Silent Type Jul 2 #18

Been saying this since Nov. SheltieLover Jul 2 #12

@ least 70 % of Americans support some form of abortion for women and in every election post .. Botany Jul 2 #13

Not to mention slobby literally could not pay people to attend his "rallies" and Kamala had huge overflow crowds and was SheltieLover Jul 2 #14

Agree completely Grim Chieftain Jul 2 #22

But I don't guess they knew how it was stolen. They have a good idea now, or should. SheltieLover Jul 2 #25

These conspiracies prey on people's mathematical illiteracy Sympthsical Jul 2 #15

+1. It's bad enough we lost to trump, but this kind of CT junk really makes me worry about Silent Type Jul 2 #20

The math is all there to see Botany Jul 2 #23

The "math" is entirely made up in that post EdmondDantes_ Jul 2 #29

+1. this is not 'math'. this is an (hackneyed) attempt at persuasion stopdiggin Jul 2 #37

Botany, with all due respect: SCantiGOP Jul 2 #33

If I wrote 2+2 equals 5 on a blackboard Sympthsical Jul 2 #36

When there are 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 possible results, then pick any one for those odds Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2 #26

I ask what I asked Trump supporters in 2020 fujiyamasan Jul 2 #17

it's a damn good question cadoman Jul 2 #34

Calling it "not conspiracy stuff" doesn't make it not conspiracy stuff, Ms. Toad Jul 2 #27

My reason Traildogbob Jul 2 #32

the 'real odds' number touted in this article/post is completely nonsensical stopdiggin Jul 2 #38

Bookmarking yellow dahlia Jul 2 #39

I wish I could be on this call! but I'm working (starts @ 1pm where I am)... liberalla Jul 2 #41