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27. Is anyone here surprised?

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It's too late': David Suzuki says the fight against climate change is lost. [View all] bronxiteforever Jul 6 OP

hem AllaN01Bear Jul 6 #1

We didn't lose the fight. The politicians threw the fight, they were well paid too. Autumn Jul 6 #2

Agree with all you said. Brenda Jul 6 #6

I agree with you but... llmart Jul 6 #26

Younger generations have been stepping up since the 1980's. haele Jul 6 #58

I don't think that's true for most of them. Brenda Jul 6 #62

I don't think most of them are well aware of how far the climate has gone south. llmart Jul 6 #71

While I truly appreciate your perspective Brenda Jul 6 #75

You are incorrect about college students being mostly from upper middle class families. llmart Jul 6 #81

NYT article says otherwise. Brenda Jul 6 #85

"First time in US history college graduates cannot find jobs." OldBaldy1701E Jul 6 #98

The 80s? The hippies were devoted to a return to the land and a sustainable form of life. But their numbers were too few Martin68 Jul 6 #83

I grew up during the 60's also, and my dad was a teacher. haele Jul 6 #87

I believed this when GWB was installed along with Cheney. "Drill baby, drill" was their mantra. SharonAnn Jul 6 #45

I agree. We're toast. Republicans killed the planet surfered Jul 6 #3

+1. We definitely lost 4 years because of Trump, and 4 more dalton99a Jul 6 #8

We lost 8 years because of GWB, 8 years obama had to deal with the financial collapse, 4 years of Trump, a GOP congress SharonAnn Jul 6 #46

China sealed the deal when its economy exploded Kaleva Jul 6 #67

Yup gerryatwork Jul 6 #88

Agree Kaleva Jul 6 #93

Not the planet - it will eventually recover. Republicans have killed human civilization. ms liberty Jul 6 #49

Human civilization. Aristus Jul 6 #65

We will be a short lived species, defacto7 Jul 6 #92

We're an extinction species misanthrope Jul 6 #101

Just yesterday I watched a couple of videos featuring George Carlin. RT_Fanatic Jul 6 #91

Nope..... Lovie777 Jul 6 #4

Nope, to what exactly? That it's lost? LymphocyteLover Jul 6 #56

not sure, but the "bright side" is Krasnov is killing so many people that we may naturally course correct cadoman Jul 6 #86

Sounds like a dystopian movie newdeal2 Jul 6 #5

It'll be isolated communities struggling to survive Kaleva Jul 6 #39

I'm afraid so. Susan Calvin Jul 6 #41

You may want to watch "2073" on max. Prairie_Seagull Jul 7 #125

The one insurmountable for me is the dwindling amount of fresh water DFW Jul 6 #7

Our area is in a multi year drought. Reservoirs are down to 15% of capacity and were under severe water restrictions. surfered Jul 6 #9

I know that the Clinton Global Initiative was seeking funding for desalinization plants almost 20 years ago. DFW Jul 6 #13

And the first thing St. Ronnie Raygun did after he cheated to beat Carter, was remove the solar panels OMGWTF Jul 6 #43

Besides, which candidate would you rather have a beer with, amirite? hatrack Jul 6 #102

Yeah, we heard that a lot in 2000 DFW Jul 6 #110

I understand this water will be used to power solar and AI for their country. What I don't understand is why in2herbs Jul 6 #22

Oil industry currently has money to bribe him with Jerry2144 Jul 6 #30

The Oil Industry is market driven thought crime Jul 6 #44

Our oiligarchs in the oil industry markodochartaigh Jul 6 #54

It's two mutually reinforcing scams . . . . or a highly profitable suicide pact (YMMV) hatrack Jul 6 #106

I read something (in regards to microplastics) where someone commented Tadpole Raisin Jul 6 #29

Water may be a big driver of climate change migration. thought crime Jul 6 #34

Pennsylvania and upstate New York have very good water in sustainable quantities FakeNoose Jul 6 #96

Dems need to decenter the "2+2 equals whatever you want" voices gulliver Jul 6 #10

Frankly it was lost decades ago indusurb Jul 6 #11

sadly, justsomeguy01 Jul 6 #23

Some do, dare I say many, but those who crave power, Mtnmama Jul 6 #57

Welcome to DU, justsomeguy01! calimary Jul 6 #112

the US isn't even close to the prime driver of CO2 increase... WarGamer Jul 6 #97

Reagan made greed and ignorance fashionable Skittles Jul 7 #117

A must read. dalton99a Jul 6 #12

Find your local Transition Town movement RandomNumbers Jul 6 #14

Thank you RandomNumbers for posting this information! bronxiteforever Jul 6 #15

Ironically, approximately 40% of water use in our area is related to the petrochemical industry surfered Jul 6 #16

And 30% is livestock JanMichael Jul 6 #20

I've been saying it's too late for years Iamscrewed Jul 6 #17

It would have taken a world wide effort.... Kaleva Jul 6 #36

I have too. For nearly 20 years. NH Ethylene Jul 7 #113

Imagining the climate migration to the Great Lakes region... EarthFirst Jul 6 #18

Breeding and eating our way to extinction. n/t flvegan Jul 6 #19

The US is now being ruled by oldigarchs who want to take us back to "a better time." They have no idea what time in2herbs Jul 6 #21

It's too late for a lot of things. orangecrush Jul 6 #24

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 6 #25

Is anyone here surprised? NewHendoLib Jul 6 #27

Green consumption and recycling were corporate lies bucolic_frolic Jul 6 #28

Unlimited consumption and disposal were the real culprits Envirogal Jul 6 #47

I've been working on this for the past several years Kaleva Jul 6 #31

It has probably been too late Glaisne Jul 6 #32

2020 taught us that much misanthrope Jul 6 #33

Al Gore was the most environmentally conscious Democratic nominee fpr president, ever. Martin Eden Jul 6 #35

Wait, didn't I hear "not a dime's worth of difference" between Bush and Gore? RandomNumbers Jul 6 #74

The difference was in the $trillions Martin Eden Jul 6 #78

YES. RandomNumbers Jul 6 #79

Another big reason the 'educated' WORLD hates the felon. Justice matters. Jul 6 #37

Somebody give me a cheesburger. twodogsbarking Jul 6 #38

Great line, from the '68 song: "Living In The USA" by Steve Miller Band Dock_Yard Jul 6 #109

The guitar. So many great songs beyond the ones that were "hits". twodogsbarking Jul 7 #120

Mo' people, mo' problems. Envirogal Jul 6 #40

China's economic boom was the clincher Kaleva Jul 7 #116

The US birthrate IS low. What do you propose to do to the countries where its HIGH? Callie1979 Jul 7 #121

Known this for years; Americans disproportionately to blame jimmy the one Jul 6 #42

You had me until nuclear energy Envirogal Jul 6 #51

The problem with nuclear as a panacea RandomNumbers Jul 6 #77

Cheers, Envirogal jimmy the one Jul 7 #129

So, the plan is to put the foot on the gas? SleeplessinSoCal Jul 6 #48

Democracy and capitalism are human inventions intended to solve the very specific issues... Ol Janx Spirit Jul 6 #50

Voters aren't willing to make the sacrifices MichMan Jul 6 #52

They would if they realized the stakes. Too many just don't believe it thanks to GOP psychopaths LymphocyteLover Jul 6 #59

Fareed Zakaria said this 20 years ago in Newsweek. Mosby Jul 6 #53

it's not so black and white... we can and will do better in the fight against global warming LymphocyteLover Jul 6 #55

China produces as much greenhouse gases .... Kaleva Jul 6 #63

duh. we lost 'normal' in the 80's. i noticed the change + data says the same. pansypoo53219 Jul 6 #60

and activate your community et tu Jul 6 #61

More than a decade ago markodochartaigh Jul 6 #64

Honestly, with how quickly the issue completely dropped from certain voters' priorities... W_HAMILTON Jul 6 #66

I remember reading Gregory Bateson Dave says Jul 6 #68

Thanks to human greed and stupidity Mysterian Jul 6 #69

I'm convinced this is why the US far right wants Canada NickB79 Jul 6 #70

I've been saying it for years... it's time for mitigation. WarGamer Jul 6 #72

K&R UTUSN Jul 6 #73

Texas found that out THE HARD WAY. nt ImNotGod Jul 6 #76

Can we stop saying the falling birth rate is a problem now, please? Scrivener7 Jul 6 #80

Once it was clear that not a single country was willing to do what it takes, it was clear nothing was going to stop the Martin68 Jul 6 #82

I fear he is right. We collectively as a species "blew it." We were warned and now we will bear the consequences of Evolve Dammit Jul 6 #84

Not listening to Mr. Hypocrite. EllieBC Jul 6 #89

This could be devastating to his credibility defacto7 Jul 6 #95

It's been talked about for YEARS. EllieBC Jul 6 #100

He's 89 years old NickB79 Jul 6 #104

He's been preaching it for decades. EllieBC Jul 6 #107

So that makes him wrong about planetary boundaries and our species' overshoot? hatrack Jul 7 #124

It was always too late, even before the election. ananda Jul 6 #90

No, because Rush Limbaugh told me Climate Change was a scam. (SARCASM) artemisia1 Jul 6 #94

The climate crisis is the result of under regulated capitalism. mjvpi Jul 6 #99

It really started with the neolibs in the Reagan administration valleyrogue Jul 6 #108

Yup, the rich set the agenda for the rest of us. Less than 1% set the agenda for 8-9 billion people. Clouds Passing Jul 7 #127

I personally think 1950 was too late Polybius Jul 6 #103

The only chance is for world leaders to urgently develop carbon extraction technology and massive afforestation Doodley Jul 6 #105

It's not too late Barbegazi Jul 6 #111

It would take a level of cooperation never before achieved Kaleva Jul 7 #115

I am more optimistic Barbegazi Jul 8 #133

+1 Kaleva Jul 9 #134

I read a few years ago that we have already baked in a 200 ft sea rise. Old Crank Jul 7 #114

100% correct Botany Jul 7 #118

If Harris had been rightly elected Javaman Jul 7 #119

How? Kaleva Jul 7 #123

I said margin of a chance. Javaman Jul 7 #130

We'll maintain our modest footprint. Torchlight Jul 7 #122

No wonder the rich are acting like greedy goons. They believe they are the only ones who will be saved. Clouds Passing Jul 7 #126

We are just along for the ride now. Snackshack Jul 7 #128

It's a hoax. BlueWavePsych Jul 7 #131

It's been too late since the 70s, at least. No one wanted to admit it. mucholderthandirt Jul 8 #132

I fear that he is quite right, and the MAGATS will boil in their beds Jack Valentino Jul 9 #135

I think you have listed some good ideas fujiyamasan Jul 9 #136