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misanthrope

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19. It wasn't my aim to "shift" anything

Mon Jul 7, 2025, 08:56 PM

Jul 7

My initial assumption was that they would have all been alerted earlier by electronic means, just as most of the people in Kerrville proper would have been. Then I read, as you reiterated, that no communication with the outside world was allowed at Camp Mystic. I heard no further detail on the extent of their communications isolation. For all I know, that could have gone as far as all camp counselors being electronics-free, with only one radio or phone at the facility being accessible for emergencies.

I am not saying that was a responsible decision, were it the case. I agree that emergency plans were obviously inadequate.

I was more struck by the terror, panic and helplessness of the situation. That is what I was trying to convey.because that was the final experience of so many of those poor people.

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Scary info from a USGS gauge on the Guadalupe River [View all] misanthrope Jul 7 OP

Have you seen this? ... marble falls Jul 7 #1

Doesn't look right. carpetbagger Jul 8 #26

I've heard from friends that there was a river running right down the main drag. ... marble falls Jul 8 #31

The 38 minute video is worth seeing Renew Deal Jul 7 #2

I grew up in a flood plain near the coast in Texas...we kept a boat under the house. pecosbob Jul 7 #3

That happened in Iowa when I was in Marion. Just north of Cenrter City was an area that haden't flooded ... marble falls Jul 8 #32

The area is full of hills. You walk toward the top of a hill. LeftInTX Jul 7 #4

All great points misanthrope Jul 7 #6

" These are flash floods, not hurricane floods" obamanut2012 Jul 7 #8

Very informative malaise Jul 7 #14

Not to mention humbling - and terrifying! calimary Jul 7 #21

Agree malaise Jul 8 #30

I guess I don't understand. LudwigPastorius Jul 7 #24

You walk before high water approaches. LeftInTX Jul 8 #25

Bingo. If it's up to your ankles and running, you are in danger. marble falls Jul 8 #33

Once camping at Turner Falls, OK a Parker ranger told us to pack up MagickMuffin Jul 7 #5

Here's a 38 minute video from the beginning of the surge to the cresting of the bridge MagickMuffin Jul 7 #7

Wow, that is exactly what it looked like when tsunamis hit Japan BigmanPigman Jul 7 #10

I watched it..in horror, actually. I bookmarked it as it was the most stunning, tragic thing Ive seen. Deuxcents Jul 8 #27

When the water is high, its also fast. milestogo Jul 7 #9

Months and months of drought made everything much worse. Paladin Jul 7 #11

Decades of drought made everyone forget what to do during a flash flood! LeftInTX Jul 7 #13

Same thing happened here with Hurricane Gilbert in 1988 malaise Jul 7 #18

No offence - I do not want to be in Jamaica in a C-3 storm event. You are most welcome to come up north ... marble falls Jul 8 #34

Thanks my friend malaise Jul 8 #35

There is that, TOO. calimary Jul 7 #22

No. Ms. Toad Jul 7 #12

If they were aware of them misanthrope Jul 7 #15

That is the responsibility of the camp and/or local goverment. Ms. Toad Jul 7 #16

It wasn't my aim to "shift" anything misanthrope Jul 7 #19

I was just responding to your assertion that the only way Ms. Toad Jul 7 #20

I grew up in a place with tornadoes as well misanthrope Jul 8 #29

We had drills about twice a year. Ms. Toad Jul 8 #38

A lot of the reason I remembered misanthrope Jul 8 #39

Both away from shrapnel, and against the strongest walls in the building. Ms. Toad Jul 8 #40

Our warnings in Burnet came more than an hour before the first crossing, they set up a high water shelter ... marble falls Jul 8 #37

Exactly. There was no warning sent. Here in Marble Falls, we get warnings from both the city and the county, ... marble falls Jul 8 #36

It seems like the camp had no plan Buckeyeblue Jul 7 #17

It happened at 4:45AM. That area of the valley is a gentle slope to the riverbed Melon Jul 7 #23

You can check the river gauge here electricmonk Jul 8 #28