It's too late': David Suzuki says the fight against climate change is lost.

[fujiyamasan]

136. I think you have listed some good ideas

The thinking here should be local and we should be looking more into mitigation and building cities smarter and more resilient to extreme weather events, but I think politically, the fight against climate change has not been sold well at all.

Climate change is the unfortunate price we have had to pay for civilization as we know it. We’re human. We build stuff. But we need that stuff so bad. Lots and lots of stuff. And how is it possible to deny the billions of people in developing countries their ability to get that stuff?

It’s not. It’s bullshit. I see even on this thread a tendency to simply shift the blame to china and India because they want a better standard of living. Oh it’s not about per capita emissions. It’s about total emissions. Well, they have a combined population somewhere around 2.8 billion, so of course their total emissions will be higher. The reality is they’ll pay their own price for not addressing their emmisons. People are choking on their air in cities like New Delhi.

It’s a smart idea to actually look at how to engineer our cities to make them livable in the future. That of course isn’t happening in this country.

And the issue is simply not resonating for most Americans either, at least not to where it’s prioritized over their own economic well being. One of the polls show how democrats placed it within their top 3 issues in the last election, but for most other voters it ranked well behind the economy, inflation, and immigration. My guess is taxes and crime would be bigger day to day priorities too.

The reality is Biden spent a lot of political capital on this and it paid few dividends. His only “sin” was the willow lease, which he likely had no choice on and for that activists went apeshit. Ok, good luck with Trump then.

Sorry I’m too jaded over this but the reality is this is just another class warfare issue. Most people don’t have the day to day energy to deal with this issue. It’s too big to comprehend. They certainly don’t want to be lectured at by wealthy celebrities. And unless you actually personalize it, it will be so big it will simply be pushed aside.