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pinkstarburst

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38. Sirens might help to a degree
Wed Jul 9, 2025, 11:51 AM
Jul 9

This area is unique because it has so many recreational spots, lots of out of towners who may be unfamiliar with the dangers posed by the river and may be unfamiliar with escape routes. It also has bad cell phone reception.

The best thing is for people to have NOAA weather radios and pay attention to weather alerts on their cell phones. But let's face it, most people are not good at preparedness. And if cell phone coverage is spotty, or if the camp directors don't allow counselors and children to have cell phones (and may not be monitoring the weather themselves), then having redundancies in place might save some lives should this happen again.

Would the sirens help in the event a flood like this were to happen again during the daytime when people were awake and outdoors? Probably. It would give people time to get to high ground.

Would the sirens help in the exact scenario we saw over the 4th of July flooding, where it was the middle of the night, the victims were all indoors and asleep, and might not hear the sirens? Not necessarily, unless you were right on top of a siren. The sirens are designed to be heard outdoors. If you are a mile away from the closest one and indoors AND awake, maybe you still hear it? If you are asleep in the middle of the night... I still worry the outcome would have been the same. But I agree it would probably be good to put them in since this is such a popular area and they could potentially save more people. This was such a horrible "perfect storm" type tragedy. In addition to putting the sirens in, they should create legislation changing camp regulations to require NOAA weather radios and camp directors to monitor them when warnings are issued in the area.

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"because some local officials felt it was too expensive to install" DBoon Jul 8 #1
They will discover how expensive it is with all the lawsuits that will be filed. mwmisses4289 Jul 8 #13
Might not Old Crank Jul 8 #24
The following is from Wikipedia regarding the phrase "Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face." John1956PA Jul 8 #22
it should say barbtries Jul 8 #23
Many/most small Texas towns have an alarm system used by the fire department to warm of tornadoes. efhmc Jul 8 #2
Not in this part of Texas. LeftInTX Jul 8 #14
Austin does not have them either. pinkstarburst Jul 8 #17
I'm not saying I have $10k floating around to buy one but... cadoman Jul 8 #21
More involved than the cost of a siren. Old Crank Jul 8 #25
I'm not saying it's $0, but I think this gives us a scale of the cost we're talking here cadoman Jul 8 #27
Most of the cities around here do not have them pinkstarburst Jul 8 #29
The Texas Hill Country's Balcones Fault line makes tornados rare and usually cause limited damage. summer_in_TX Jul 9 #36
Austin does not have sirens pinkstarburst Jul 8 #16
Air raid siren. efhmc Jul 8 #32
1,800 people in our small borough, gab13by13 Jul 8 #3
They have them in Tsunami zones and the Hill Country has more flash floods. The cost can't be too prohibitive. surfered Jul 8 #4
Yes I know Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 8 #6
They also have lahar warning sirens here in the Mt. Rainier river valleys Trailrider1951 Jul 8 #11
exactly gopiscrap Jul 8 #20
K&R spanone Jul 8 #5
Re short-sighted, selfish people who don't want to pay taxes for what communities need: Attilatheblond Jul 8 #7
Even TX Lt. Gov. gets it. Now. moondust Jul 8 #8
te same kind of siren that every town had whem we were ducking and covering under our desks rampartd Jul 8 #9
Where I grew up they tested air raid sirens every Saturday at noon. No matter where you were you could hear them. flashman13 Jul 8 #19
Wow - how much would it cost to install a few sirens and perhaps warning lights? waterwatcher123 Jul 8 #10
What? There aren't "forests" on the Edward's Plateau. It's a "savanna" LeftInTX Jul 8 #15
The imagery certainly makes it look like lots of the upland areas have been cleared. waterwatcher123 Jul 8 #35
No. Upland areas have never been cleared. As a matter of fact, trees have increased due to human settlement. LeftInTX Jul 9 #37
Thanks for the nice pictures, imagery and explanations (appreciate it). waterwatcher123 Jul 9 #39
Flood alarms are for fancy book learnin' librul smarty pants. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 8 #12
A warning siren in a flood plain town? Gimpyknee Jul 8 #18
Not the good idea you think it is. Jirel Jul 8 #33
My small town has several sirens, and they get tested once a month at 10 a.m. on a Saturday morning. Sogo Jul 8 #26
Ours are tested Littlered Jul 8 #28
What a ridiculous article. Jirel Jul 8 #30
You know what's prohibitive to me? The cost of losing a loved one. Buddyzbuddy Jul 8 #31
A siren/water depth gauge systm on the river bank is not that expensive. The governor and Sen. Cruz... brush Jul 8 #34
Sirens might help to a degree pinkstarburst Jul 9 #38
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