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littlemissmartypants

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41. This might help explain the seriousness of their insanity...
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 04:38 PM
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Taylor, who specializes in Protestant studies as senior scholar at the Institute for Islamic, Christian, and Jewish Studies in Baltimore, Maryland, is a gifted narrator and an incisive analyst. The Violent Take It By Force: The Christian Movement That is Threatening Our Democracy, just released in October 2024, is as riveting and disquieting as the podcast. Disquieting because the movement he writes about appears closer to realizing what Ché Ahn spoke of four years ago, a triumph that would bring an end to the protection from religious coercion that the First Amendment is intended to provide. The Courage Tour that targeted nineteen counties in the seven swing states with spirit-filled revivals firing up the faithful for Donald Trump in the recent election campaign demonstrated the movement’s ongoing vitality.The New Apostolic Reformation
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Apostolic and prophetic governance forms one of the three legs of the ideological stool, as Taylor describes it, undergirding a mega-network that emerged in 1996 called the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Taylor writes that the NAR connected a large sector of independent, charismatic Christianity in what became a “potent network of Christian leaders” who “built the theology of Christian Trumpism and then inspired thousands of Christians to show up on January 6 to fight for Donald Trump.”2 Under the radar of most media analysts, including prominent evangelicals, NAR-connected charismatic leaders and their ideas have moved from the margins to the center of politicized right-wing evangelicalism. They have become “frontline captains in America’s culture wars.”32022 (screen capture).

Ché Ahn’s January 5, 2021, remarks also manifest the two other legs of the NAR stool—strategic-level spiritual warfare and the Seven Mountains Mandate. The NAR takes to another level the fairly commonplace notion of “prayer warriors” who do battle against evil in the spiritual realm on behalf of individuals. At the “strategic” level of spiritual warfare, apostles and prophets have authority to lead massive prayer campaigns against specific “territorial spirits”—commanders in the hierarchy of cosmic “principalities and powers” who are assigned to rule specific geo-political territories or institutions. “Jezebel” thus apparently names a specific, command-level demon holding sway over the U. S. government that was to be cast out by “Jehu,” representing “generals of intercession” leading believers in a targeted campaign of spiritual warfare. The Seven Mountains Mandate, bidding Christians to attain dominance over the major realms of human society, forms the ideological link between warfare in the invisible, cosmic realm and political conflict in the visible, earth-bound realm. Thus, success in the spiritual campaign means that on the ground, in Ahn’s words, Christians are going to “rule and reign through President Trump.”

But why Trump? And how could all of this be conceived of as “under the lordship of Jesus Christ.” In The Violent Take It By Force, Taylor tells the story of how NAR-connected leaders have exerted an outsized influence in bringing about the apparent incongruity of evangelical conservatives giving overwhelming and ardent support to a man whose unrepentant immorality, unapologetic self-aggrandizement, and unceasing lies seem to put him utterly at odds with the moral values they say they want implemented in public life. The narrative centers on former Fuller Seminary professor C. Peter Wagner (1930-2016), the architect of the NAR, and reads like a novel in relating how the lives of a vivid cast of characters intersected with Wagner and each other in the process of forming a movement that has made a vast impact.
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https://spectrummagazine.org/culture/books-film/from-revival-to-riot-a-review-of-matthew-d-taylors-the-violent-take-it-by-force/

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Creeping jeebus EYESORE 9001 Yesterday #1
I don't have dweller Yesterday #2
OK, I gotta remember to use "the Epsteinth time" ... nt eppur_se_muova 22 hrs ago #89
This isn't FAKE??? bucolic_frolic Yesterday #3
Johnson Blue-Gill1972 Yesterday #4
Can't God just beam HIM up, and leave Ars Longa Yesterday #86
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago #91
This can't be true. Baitball Blogger Yesterday #5
I'd like to suggest a title - "To Serve Man" hatrack Yesterday #7
I am waiting for the South Park treatment of the story jmbar2 Yesterday #12
WTF. Religious propaganda on DU. Why? brush Yesterday #6
The reason why is important jmbar2 Yesterday #11
The End Times? The Rapture? The Apocalypse? Seriously? This is DU not a hotbed of Bible thumpers. brush Yesterday #17
Understood jmbar2 Yesterday #18
Use the ignore option Wifes husband Yesterday #34
The purpose of this post isn't to promote this Diraven Yesterday #39
So we at DU promote it further? Makes no sense to me. brush Yesterday #53
I don't see it as promoting it Mossfern Yesterday #61
Cybercasting it here and releasing it into the either is promoting it. It belongs on winger sites not here. brush Yesterday #63
Would you be more accepting here Mossfern Yesterday #69
DU isn't 'promoting' it---- but putting a spotlight on the absurdity Jack Valentino Yesterday #76
This might help explain the seriousness of their insanity... littlemissmartypants Yesterday #41
Thank you for posting this! jmbar2 Yesterday #55
My pleasure. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Yesterday #78
While this may be informative - & forewarned is forearmed - I don't think I could stand to read an entire book about it. eppur_se_muova 21 hrs ago #90
Unfortunatley the fucking bible thumping nuts are in our government. Autumn Yesterday #50
Understood, but why is this posted here? Why further release it into cyberspace? brush Yesterday #51
Because it's part of current events? Crunchy Frog Yesterday #54
It's religious propaghanda on DU and IMO it belongs onwinger sites if anybody wants it. brush Yesterday #58
You can alert on it if you think it breaks DU rules. Crunchy Frog Yesterday #60
Nobody is 'promoting' it, for Christ's sake.... (so to speak) Jack Valentino Yesterday #77
Mike Johnson is the Speaker of the house. He's involved. Autumn Yesterday #64
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #66
It's not promoting. It's called discussing a current event. That's what we adults do here. Autumn Yesterday #67
It's entirely legitimate to report on the activities of people who believe in that stuff, especially when Crunchy Frog Yesterday #52
Posting it here just further promotes it. I'm going to alert on it. Don't want to see this crap here. Belongs on... brush Yesterday #56
You can always hide the thread. Crunchy Frog Yesterday #57
I defer to anyone with the patience to watch a 16 min clickbait video muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #16
My sloppy header - will correct jmbar2 Yesterday #22
The odd thing is that no one ever names the "prophet" who came up with this bollocks muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #70
Here's an article from CBS Nittersing Yesterday #30
It's exposure and criticism of the batshittery. nt Celerity Yesterday #24
Religious insanity. They should leave animal sacrifice out of their religion, and just sacrifice themselves. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Yesterday #8
Yep. Leave the animals and the kids and the non consenting out of it. jeffreyi Yesterday #35
There is a group of rich old men that think Blue Full Moon Yesterday #9
Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man. Thomas Paine Ping Tung Yesterday #10
Holy Cow Donkees Yesterday #13
Rimshot jmbar2 Yesterday #15
Mike Johnson and pals are batshit insane and evil. PufPuf23 Yesterday #14
Word has it that one of the heifers was seen in the company of Matt Gaetz, sooooo.... Girard442 Yesterday #19
So the red republicon heifers are on the Epstein list, too? BoRaGard Yesterday #29
this is the heart of krasnov's cult rampartd Yesterday #20
Full-fledged KOOK Blue Owl Yesterday #21
A lot of these so-called Christians are going to be very surprised by where they'll spend the afterlife. jls4561 Yesterday #23
This bunch of freaks have been working at bringing around the apocalypse on purpose for a long time. Clouds Passing Yesterday #25
Who in Israel is cooperating with this? tanyev Yesterday #26
Jews know that the backbone of Israel's support in the U.S. is the evangelical Christians and not American Jews LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #65
Yep, it's one of those things where both parties think they are manipulating tanyev Yesterday #72
Spot on. markodochartaigh Yesterday #81
Look up Mossfern Yesterday #75
This country is so completely and entirely fucked Eliot Rosewater Yesterday #27
Dominionism czarjak Yesterday #28
Woe unto you who seek the day of the Lord: how would it concern you? The day of the Lord will be struggle4progress Yesterday #31
I'd like to know when the apocalypse is scheduled Turbineguy Yesterday #32
Yeah, can we have all your stuff? jmbar2 Yesterday #33
These people are going to be surprised. Wifes husband Yesterday #36
It's Darbyism Cognitive_Resonance Yesterday #49
Thanks for posting - interesting. jmbar2 Yesterday #59
Yeah, I know. Wifes husband Yesterday #68
The planet is inhabited by more than a few malaise Yesterday #37
First, the golden calf!! usonian Yesterday #38
Wow - repubes on their knees to mammon man BoRaGard Yesterday #46
And this one is actually real markodochartaigh Yesterday #82
They're going to sacrifice Mike Johnson...? regnaD kciN Yesterday #40
To be fair Diraven Yesterday #42
The minds of MAGA "Christians" Mblaze Yesterday #43
Rapture? I Got Yer Rapture Right Here MAGA Mike! MrWowWow Yesterday #44
Best Episode Ever! MineralMan 8 hrs ago #92
They are all freaks...mentally ill....nt Figarosmom Yesterday #45
Delusional Malevolence Is A Hell Of A Drug MayReasonRule Yesterday #47
christi-insanity Be Leave On Yesterday #48
It's all about the Apocalypse: Another disturbing reason behind the right wing's pro-Israel obsession LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #62
Save the cows. Sacrifice Johnson... Wounded Bear Yesterday #71
TRUMP is roughly equal to five red heifers.... or Jack Valentino Yesterday #73
Wouldn't actively ushering in "the apocalypse" or end times flvegan Yesterday #74
Make believe. Dangerous, infantile make believe. Sibelius Fan Yesterday #79
TY to those like LMSP who took the time to give a detailed reply to the disturbed. It is important to know... Hekate Yesterday #80
Thank you for a thoughtful discussion jmbar2 Yesterday #84
Thanks back atcha Hekate Yesterday #87
While I am hildegaard28 Yesterday #83
Public Service Announcement: markodochartaigh Yesterday #85
I figure someone would have to be B.See 22 hrs ago #88
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