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LuckyCharms

(20,833 posts)
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:50 PM Saturday

I'm the type of person who has always been proud to pay his income taxes. [View all]

Most people don't especially like paying taxes, but I kind of do. It's a cost to us because we live in society.

In a society, things that benefit us need to be paid for, because nothing comes for free.

Now, there are several tax laws that I don't particularly like, and I don't like that fact that corporations, and singular billionaires, can literally skirt paying ANY taxes if they work hard enough to find and take advantage of loop holes.

In spite of this, I've always viewed paying income taxes as my duty as a citizen. The same with voting. It's my duty and responsibility.

But now...I'm having these gnawing feelings of despair, because I feel like my income taxes are eventually finding their way into Trump's pocket, ICE bonuses, kidnappings on the street, and military equipment and personal to blow up small fishing boats.

I'm nobody, nobody in the big picture. But still, what little of it there is, it's MY money, and I don't want it to go into Trump's pockets. I don't want one cent to go to ICE so they can harass food vendors and chase scared Americans (or people of any nationality) into their homes, making them fearful to go outside again for the rest of their lives.

I'm thinking really hard, trying to figure out if I'm a hypocrite in a way, because I never felt this way when thinking about contributing to the funding of foreign wars. I don't like it, but I view it as that's "just the way it is and I have to grin and bear it".

But what is happening now feels different to me. I draw a picture in mind of my paltry sum of money getting stuffed into the suit jacket pocket of the orange one. Because that's where a lot of our taxes end up, one way or another.

In the meantime...people starve.

I know this post is a little convoluted, and some parts may be contradictory, but I can't help feeling this way. I'm having trouble expressing this entire concept without coming across as a hypocrite.

If anyone responds, please don't hit me with "but you didn't mind paying money to fund the wars in Afghanistan, Israel, etc". I know...and that's why I'm struggling with the nature of how I'm currently feeling. It's hard to put into words.

And the reason maybe why I feel like a hypocrite is...do I feel this way because the brutality is hitting too close to home now?

I'm really doing some soul searching about this all of this...

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I am okay with paying taxes Bluestocking Saturday #1
Really? LuckyCharms Saturday #2
Unless you are paying only retirement taxes, your tax dollars are going to both ICE and the salaries of Republicans Ms. Toad Saturday #10
🤭 MerryBlooms Saturday #19
I don't understand your last line, unless it is just wishful thinking. Ferrets are Cool Sunday #31
" Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society." rsdsharp Saturday #3
I guess we still do... LuckyCharms Saturday #5
Reasonable question. yellow dahlia Saturday #15
I never complain when I pay my taxes. SamKnause Saturday #4
I feel the same, but now... LuckyCharms Saturday #6
Taxes are the price to live in a civilized country. Emile Saturday #7
I don't mind the people who are complaining about taxes. OldBaldy1701E Sunday #26
You are not alone. nt Prairie_Seagull Saturday #8
It is human ForgedCrank Saturday #9
Valid. LuckyCharms Saturday #11
Every year we owe about 2k in Federal taxes Lifeafter70 Saturday #12
I don't ForgedCrank Saturday #13
I understand what you are saying about hidden taxes Lifeafter70 Saturday #14
See My Reply To That Poster ProfessorGAC Saturday #17
A Bit Confusing ProfessorGAC Saturday #16
Thank you Lifeafter70 Saturday #18
All of ForgedCrank Saturday #20
Not All ProfessorGAC Saturday #21
Ok, you ForgedCrank Saturday #23
Equipment is not taxed directly, but those manufacturing the equipment are and they pass that along to the buyers MichMan Sunday #34
Hardly The Point ProfessorGAC Sunday #36
Now I want my taxes to go to my state mainer Saturday #22
That is the same argument used by those who favor eliminating federal agencies and making the states responsible MichMan Sunday #35
I would be happy to send my taxes to the feds mainer Sunday #37
Lucky Charms dlilafae Sunday #24
I like your statement: LuckyCharms Sunday #25
It's a time that calls for soul searching. Biophilic Sunday #27
+1. Well said. LuckyCharms Sunday #30
If you have to pay taxes, you're in good shape, pay them. Turbineguy Sunday #28
That's the way I look at it too. Haggard Celine Sunday #38
Paying taxes didn't bother me before the criminal mob took control. Now, I am glad I'm poor enough to be mostly untaxed Attilatheblond Sunday #29
I loathe those commercials..." I owed the IRS $135,000 and with the help of Ferrets are Cool Sunday #32
Age Old Dilemma OC375 Sunday #33
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