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ForgedCrank

(2,907 posts)
13. I don't
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 02:41 PM
Saturday

see it that way.
You are correct, there is no line item on the receipt for sales tax on food.
That said, choose one item. For simplicity. make it an apple since it has but one ingredient for raw materials. Before that apple got to the shelf...

- Tree had to be planted by someone who got paid a wage.
- Ground has to be tended with both labor and equipment
- equipment takes fuel to operate
- fertilizer and insecticides have to be applied, also with labor
- the fruit has to be harvested, equipment and labor
- it has to be packaged into boxes that are purchased
- it has to be QC's and inspected
- it has to be shipped to a distributor on our roads in trucks that are taxed
-it has to be shipped to the individual stores all using road equipment
- it has to be unloaded from the truck and stocked on a shelf
- a cashier must ring it all up for you, more labor

This is a very simple list as the real one is a complex tree that runs deep and it probably 200X this long in reality. For example, just the cardboard box the apples are packed in has an entire chain of it's own. ALL of these things are taxed from the top, to the bottom, including every wage dollar paid out to make it all happen,. Fuel tax, tire tax, sales tax on equ... tax on equip repairs, people to manage all of that, they are taxed. So that $1 apple that is not taxed at the register is really a 25c apple and 75c worth of tax overhead that is hidden in the cost to produce it. Obviously I'm taking a wild guess on the percentages here, but more dollars are filtered through government as taxes than people are able to realize. The majority of all dollars pass through the hands of and are spent by government than the people themselves. People would revolt if they ever sat down and realized just how much money government takes

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I am okay with paying taxes Bluestocking Saturday #1
Really? LuckyCharms Saturday #2
Unless you are paying only retirement taxes, your tax dollars are going to both ICE and the salaries of Republicans Ms. Toad Saturday #10
🤭 MerryBlooms Saturday #19
I don't understand your last line, unless it is just wishful thinking. Ferrets are Cool Sunday #31
" Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society." rsdsharp Saturday #3
I guess we still do... LuckyCharms Saturday #5
Reasonable question. yellow dahlia Saturday #15
I never complain when I pay my taxes. SamKnause Saturday #4
I feel the same, but now... LuckyCharms Saturday #6
Taxes are the price to live in a civilized country. Emile Saturday #7
I don't mind the people who are complaining about taxes. OldBaldy1701E Sunday #26
You are not alone. nt Prairie_Seagull Saturday #8
It is human ForgedCrank Saturday #9
Valid. LuckyCharms Saturday #11
Every year we owe about 2k in Federal taxes Lifeafter70 Saturday #12
I don't ForgedCrank Saturday #13
I understand what you are saying about hidden taxes Lifeafter70 Saturday #14
See My Reply To That Poster ProfessorGAC Saturday #17
A Bit Confusing ProfessorGAC Saturday #16
Thank you Lifeafter70 Saturday #18
All of ForgedCrank Saturday #20
Not All ProfessorGAC Saturday #21
Ok, you ForgedCrank Saturday #23
Equipment is not taxed directly, but those manufacturing the equipment are and they pass that along to the buyers MichMan Sunday #34
Hardly The Point ProfessorGAC Sunday #36
Now I want my taxes to go to my state mainer Saturday #22
That is the same argument used by those who favor eliminating federal agencies and making the states responsible MichMan Sunday #35
I would be happy to send my taxes to the feds mainer Sunday #37
Lucky Charms dlilafae Sunday #24
I like your statement: LuckyCharms Sunday #25
It's a time that calls for soul searching. Biophilic Sunday #27
+1. Well said. LuckyCharms Sunday #30
If you have to pay taxes, you're in good shape, pay them. Turbineguy Sunday #28
That's the way I look at it too. Haggard Celine Sunday #38
Paying taxes didn't bother me before the criminal mob took control. Now, I am glad I'm poor enough to be mostly untaxed Attilatheblond Sunday #29
I loathe those commercials..." I owed the IRS $135,000 and with the help of Ferrets are Cool Sunday #32
Age Old Dilemma OC375 Sunday #33
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