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Scrivener7

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29. Yes. As we have known it, it is indeed over. But there is an opportunity here to build something different.
Tue May 26, 2026, 08:33 AM
Tuesday

We can all see it is over, and those violently denying it in this thread just seem to me to be simply showing their understandable reluctance to look at the fact that it is obviously over.

BUT. This disaster has shown us the unworkable parts of our system that need to go. These show us the road to build a better system if we have the will. Whether we have the will is the unanswered question.

The biggest fissure is that our system depends on its participants having a modicum of decency. We have learned that at least a third of our countrywomen and men don't have that decency. So depending on that decency just won't work anymore. That's done.

We can build something different when we regain power by first addressing those areas this third have exploited. The areas where they have been able to pillage the country for their own ends. That includes corporations and politicians. This requires a concerted effort to PROSECUTE the offenders without mercy. Our mistake in the Biden years was not doing that. Inevitably, I will be accused of trashing Biden for saying that. It's not trashing. Some of us saw his mistake in real time. A lot more can see it in retrospect. He made a mistake. People do. But the appointment of a "go along to get along" prosecutor has had disastrous consequences. This time, if "Just move ahead" is the road taken, it will truly be the end of anything resembling a Democracy.

But also, somewhere down the line when things settle into the new system - because it WILL be a new system, for better or worse depending on what WE do - we need to look at WHY so many of our countrywomen and men are such shits. Why there is no honesty, no character on the right. Bring back civics classes and make them mandatory in high school. Address the income inequality that makes the weaker among us create enemies of their neighbors. This is a lot more elusive than the goal of prosecution, and it's beyond my psychological understandings, but it is something smarter heads than mine need to address.

The same group that will accuse me of trashing Biden will take issue with my saying that WE have to fix this. They will say republicans broke it and therefore should fix it. Which is asinine. Of course they should. But that's not how the world works. They won't. We all know they won't. So if we want it fixed, we have to do it ourselves.

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I said the same thing to a friend this morning. Irish_Dem May 25 #1
that bluesky post is illiterate defeatist bullshit Blues Heron May 25 #2
No it's not. It's the bucket of cold water thrown in the faces FoxNewsSucks May 25 #8
it's still defeatist, especially the idea that Dems are impotent and that we can't win the midterms LymphocyteLover May 25 #14
It's not just the media portraying them as such, FoxNewsSucks May 25 #20
I'm not saying Dems couldn't do more against this administration and suspend some of those norms, however they have LymphocyteLover Tuesday #27
Pretty god damned impotent ABC123Easy Tuesday #31
Trump was INDICTED MULTIPLE TIMES by Garland's DOJ. It was the fucking Supreme Court who fucked over those cases. LymphocyteLover Tuesday #32
Not BS ABC123Easy Tuesday #33
You don't know what exactly he did. Anyway, if SCOTUS has interfered and massively delayed the cases, Dump would have LymphocyteLover Tuesday #34
Thats a giant load of wishy washy BS ABC123Easy Tuesday #35
I disagree that he did nothing. I agree he could've acted more urgently but he did pursue the cases and the LymphocyteLover Wednesday #38
I disagree. ABC123Easy Wednesday #39
you seriously think SCOTUS would've just left the case alone and not interfered if Garland rushed the prosecutions? LymphocyteLover Wednesday #41
Again ABC123Easy Wednesday #42
"You've never actually responded to the fact that Garland is to blame for this." LymphocyteLover Thursday #43
That is completely delusional ABC123Easy Thursday #44
Why doesn't the buck stop with Biden? He's the one who appointed Garland. LymphocyteLover Thursday #45
Wow ABC123Easy Thursday #46
No, I don't. I asked a simple question since Biden hired the guy and the buck famously stop with the president. LymphocyteLover Thursday #47
Simple question ABC123Easy Friday #49
There's a difference between realistic and defeatist. wnylib May 25 #17
There are way too many people FoxNewsSucks May 25 #21
And there are quite a few people who are eager to call others Polyannas wnylib May 25 #22
Who are the pollyannas? MorbidButterflyTat May 25 #19
Revolution Pollyannas: don't threaten us with the Supreme Court or tell us to vote blue no matter who. betsuni May 25 #24
I really hate this snowybirdie May 25 #3
Where does it say to give up and walk away? FoxNewsSucks May 25 #9
That's not what it says. Scrivener7 Tuesday #30
I won't be celebrating the 250th Easterncedar May 25 #4
THIS. n/t CousinIT May 25 #6
Cheer up and take the opportunity that is offered bucolic_frolic May 25 #5
This time, put the women in charge. Men just cause problems and BS wars. OMGWTF May 25 #7
Men have little ground to stand on when claiming that women.. CousinIT May 25 #12
Is it being challenged? Absolutely! Phoenix61 May 25 #10
I think the US can have a real democracy - but it needs a real constitution first. harumph May 25 #11
I agree it's over. It will take a hundred years to rebuild, if ever. Our sinkingfeeling May 25 #13
Fuck the Borg struggle4progress May 25 #15
Word! yellow dahlia May 25 #16
Happy to report this guy's damning post mortem of America didn't keep him from hyping his podcast MorbidButterflyTat May 25 #18
Somebody posts something on social media ... so who is this guy anyway FakeNoose May 25 #23
"This is OUR government. Yes, we can change our government whenever we want. Don't ever betsuni Tuesday #25
There is an irrefutable Step One that has to happen this year... BH liberal Tuesday #28
Sneed is a click master. Peddle despair, make a buck. delisen Tuesday #26
Yes. As we have known it, it is indeed over. But there is an opportunity here to build something different. Scrivener7 Tuesday #29
The experiment includes a step, "What if someone says the experiment is over when it's not?" gulliver Tuesday #36
If giving up is not an option sarisataka Tuesday #37
Mixed messages: "It's over and we lost, but don't give up." Torchlight Wednesday #40
Patent Bullshit! MineralMan Thursday #48
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